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nathanw |
Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 1:40 am Post subject: Isn't it amazing that.......... |
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Joined: 14 Jul 2004 Posts: 550
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after reading a few posts I realised that alot of people on here suffer the same problems I do
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you install and configure MQ and or WBI and or Workflow as examples, platforms dont matter
you spend alot of time setting them up correctly, making sure the message flows / sets or interfaces work correctly
you test, fix, retest, stress test and all is fine
you go live
for a week or so all is good
then suddenly you get a phone call
MQ is not working
we cant get any data through
so you go into the office and look around
what do you find?
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well normally i find that the network admins are doing something and have disconnected a server
the application(s) have been upgraded and the appropriate bits have not been switched on!
No matter how oftern you tell a third party that they have to set conversion on in channels between platforms they dont do it
or even worse they have not started both ends of a channel or named it wrong - which happened when we were not allowed to set up the prod environment!
they are running warm backup so that if the main wbi server goes down it switches over to a secondary one but they have not set up the secondary box correctly!
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But in the end you sit back safe in the knowledge that if MQ or part of the family has a problem you can fix it but most of the people out there who use the Websphere apps just nod their heads and ignore your advice until things go wrong
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Ahh well
back to client site again!  |
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Michael Dag |
Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 2:55 am Post subject: |
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Joined: 13 Jun 2002 Posts: 2607 Location: The Netherlands (Amsterdam)
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yes and no...
Integrating applications is "an after thought" in the application development process, almost as bad as writing documentation
Once the "after thought" is implemented no one realises the application has now been extended beyond it's own boundaries and any change can affect it now.
like before integrating app A and B switching off router Z was no problem... now all of a sudden router Z does matter! (for example...) _________________ Michael
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nathanw |
Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 3:44 am Post subject: |
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Joined: 14 Jul 2004 Posts: 550
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Micheal
I agree but normally you tell the people of the differences and you inform the support / IT departments
and they still dont listen!
Documentation is the hardest thing I ever have to do tho I do agree |
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kirani |
Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 9:50 am Post subject: |
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Joined: 05 Sep 2001 Posts: 3779 Location: Torrance, CA, USA
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I guess, you can call the IT departments first when the application is down!! I have seen this happening at many client sites. For example, the App team is responsible for the application running on a server, but don't have control over the team who deploys the application on the server. If they don't deploy the app correctly then it might not work as expected. Finally, it comes down to documentation and communcation within different teams. _________________ Kiran
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