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dprogwmb
PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 10:47 am    Post subject: 2 different versiones installed of MQ, is it possible? Reply with quote

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Hi all

I want to have 2 different versiones of Websphere MQ installed in one server.
One version on 6.0.2.5 (this for one application)
One version on 7.0.1.2 (this for other application)


(and I'm having 2 different versions installed of message broker on the same machine).

Is there any way to do it?
(when installing MQ , I only have the option to upgrade... so I will forget the older version).

Any ideas or any help will be appreciated...!!!
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mqjeff
PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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No, MQ does not allow you to coexist multiple versions on the same OS image in any currently or previously shipping releases.
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dprogwmb
PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 11:08 am    Post subject: Thanks for the answer... but now...how can i solve it? Reply with quote

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mqjeff wrote:
No, MQ does not allow you to coexist multiple versions on the same OS image in any currently or previously shipping releases.

Thanks for the answer...!!
I'm thinking in rolling back the new installation of MQ (7) if something wrong happens... so I think this would be the commands to execute to store all the MQ information:
saveqmgrc --for MQObjects: queues ,channels,
amqoamd --for permissions

Am I forgetting to store any other important component of MQ?...do you suggest executting any other command?
(MQ is not in cluster)
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zpat
PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 11:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Use at least v7.0.1.3 (which is a refresh level).
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 11:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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mqjeff wrote:
No, MQ does not allow you to coexist multiple versions on the same OS image in any currently or previously shipping releases.

With one notable exception.

WMQ for z/OS allows for concurrent installation of multiple versions of WMQ in a single instance of the o/s.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 11:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You cannot go back from WMQ v7 to WMQ v6 and keep qmgr data that has been run under v7. The qmgr has to be deleted and recreated, or a qmgr backup restored.
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Philip Morten
PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 4:38 am    Post subject: Re: 2 different versiones installed of MQ, is it possible? Reply with quote

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dprogwmb wrote:
Hi all

I want to have 2 different versiones of Websphere MQ installed in one server.
One version on 6.0.2.5 (this for one application)
One version on 7.0.1.2 (this for other application)


(and I'm having 2 different versions installed of message broker on the same machine).

Is there any way to do it?
(when installing MQ , I only have the option to upgrade... so I will forget the older version).

Any ideas or any help will be appreciated...!!!

Not with 6.0 and 7.0, but you will be able to do this with 7.0.1 and 7.1 ( announced today ) - announcement letter is http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/rep_ca/3/877/ENUSZP11-0483/ENUSZP11-0483.PDF
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mqjeff
PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 4:54 am    Post subject: Re: 2 different versiones installed of MQ, is it possible? Reply with quote

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Philip Morten wrote:
you will be able to do this with 7.0.1 and 7.1 ( announced today ) - announcement letter is http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/rep_ca/3/877/ENUSZP11-0483/ENUSZP11-0483.PDF


I did use the words "currently shipping" with care.
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LMD
PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 11:14 pm    Post subject: Re: 2 different versiones installed of MQ, is it possible? Reply with quote

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dprogwmb wrote:
Hi all

I want to have 2 different versiones of Websphere MQ installed in one server.
One version on 6.0.2.5 (this for one application)
One version on 7.0.1.2 (this for other application)



Now with the newly annonced 7.1 version, you can have two level of MQ on the same server.
But I suspect the lower version should be 7.0.1 at least.
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mqjeff
PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 2:06 am    Post subject: Re: 2 different versiones installed of MQ, is it possible? Reply with quote

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LMD wrote:
dprogwmb wrote:
Hi all

I want to have 2 different versiones of Websphere MQ installed in one server.
One version on 6.0.2.5 (this for one application)
One version on 7.0.1.2 (this for other application)



Now with the newly annonced 7.1 version, you can have two level of MQ on the same server.
But I suspect the lower version should be 7.0.1 at least.


Yes, Phillip Morten is very clear on that in his comment above.

You can only coexist with a minimum level of 7.0.1.
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simon.starkie
PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What about MQ Client(s)?

I am trying to browse messages on a V6 Qmgr using RFHUTILC

WIth the MQ 7.0.1 Client installed, RFHUTILC fails with
2046 Invalid option for operation Set
This error occurs using the latest RFHUTILC for V7.
The same error occurs when using an older RFHUTILC for V6.
Uninstalling MQ 7.0.1 Client and reinstalling MQ 6 Client solves the problem.
(this is all IBM code - just RFHUTIL and MQ - no user code at all - for simplicity).

This is not very convenient.
We are in the middle of migrating to WMB7 from WMB6.
So we still have MQ6 QMGRS to support and develop for.
And MQ7 QMGRS to develop for.

So will 7.1 MQ Client fix this issue?

Thanks.

*EDIT* clarified this post based on ZPat's question below. Thanks.


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zpat
PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 11:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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7.1 will only co-exist with 7016, nothing lower.

Co-exist is not the same as inter-operate of course. MQ is generally fully interoperable between versions.

However I don't see your problem, what have the version of MQ client and rfhutilc got to do with the WMB versions?

We use WMQ version 7 client (I recommend the latest version 7016) and rfhutilc without any problems (use the latest rfhutilc as well).
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simon.starkie
PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 7:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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zpat wrote:
7.1 will only co-exist with 7016, nothing lower.

Co-exist is not the same as inter-operate of course. MQ is generally fully interoperable between versions.

However I don't see your problem, what have the version of MQ client and rfhutilc got to do with the WMB versions?

We use WMQ version 7 client (I recommend the latest version 7016) and rfhutilc without any problems (use the latest rfhutilc as well).


Thanks Zpat. I've hopefully clarified my previous post.

Regarding MQ 7.1 - does the WMQ 7.1 Client work correctly with a WMQ 6 QMGR? Thanks.
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PeterPotkay
PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 7:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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simon.starkie wrote:
Regarding MQ 7.1 - does the WMQ 7.1 Client work correctly with a WMQ 6 QMGR? Thanks.


It works. You won't have all the MQ 7 features available to you since the QM is MQ 6, but it will be functional and stable otherwise.
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simon.starkie
PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 9:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PeterPotkay wrote:
simon.starkie wrote:
Regarding MQ 7.1 - does the WMQ 7.1 Client work correctly with a WMQ 6 QMGR? Thanks.


It works. You won't have all the MQ 7 features available to you since the QM is MQ 6, but it will be functional and stable otherwise.


Thanks Peter. And Pat.
Any idea please where I may download the WMQ 7.1 Client from?
Thanks.
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