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ankurlodhi
PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 9:21 am    Post subject: how to find a trigger definition Reply with quote

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we have triggered queues on a development box, which i need to recreat, on the other box, but the queues are triggered is there any way that I can find out the definition of the triggers,

I tried searching the web but didn't find anything,

and saveqmgr is not allowed to be used,

in processdefinition folder there is only one file, but its a system defined file.
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Vitor
PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 9:39 am    Post subject: Re: how to find a trigger definition Reply with quote

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ankurlodhi wrote:
is there any way that I can find out the definition of the triggers


Seriously?

ankurlodhi wrote:
I tried searching the web but didn't find anything


The DISPLAY command in the InfoCenter didn't show up then?

ankurlodhi wrote:
in processdefinition folder there is only one file, but its a system defined file.


Well it would be; all queue manager controlled objects are.

Your stated aim to get the Nobel Prize for WMQ seems a long way off.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 9:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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ya it may be long way .. but it does not make a difference to me,

i may progress slowly but i will make it furm and strong
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 9:55 am    Post subject: Re: how to find a trigger definition Reply with quote

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Vitor wrote:
Your stated aim to get the Nobel Prize for WMQ seems a long way off.

Could be up for a Darwin award though!
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Vitor
PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 9:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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ankurlodhi wrote:
ya it may be long way ..


And a painful way if your ability to find things doesn't improve.

ankurlodhi wrote:
i will make it furm and strong


That's far, far too much sharing.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 10:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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keep on saying u can moke or look down at me .. but thanks

I found out that there are no .. triggers in that folder... defined..
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 10:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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ankurlodhi wrote:
I found out that there are no .. triggers in that folder... defined..


No, there are not. The folder's name should have been a bit of a giveaway really.

You should make more of an effort to read posts in this form and the InfoCenter.

ankurlodhi wrote:
u can moke or look down at me


A spell checker on your posts & avoiding txt spek will do wonders. This isn't Twitter.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 10:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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the path is this
/var/mqm/qmgrs/QM/procdef

the file in this is

SYSTEM!DEFAULT!PROCESS

and when i try

display process (SYSTEM.DEFAULT.PROCESS)

i get this

AMQ8407: Display Process details.
DESCR( ) APPLICID( )
USERDATA( ) ENVRDATA( )
PROCESS(SYSTEM.DEFAULT.PROCESS) ALTDATE(2004-04-05)
ALTTIME(14.21.2 APPLTYPE(UNIX)

where m i mistaking.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Go to google. Search for WMQ+trigger. The first hit should answer your question.

Learn how to search.
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ankurlodhi wrote:
where m i mistaking.


a) Looking in the queue manager's file system for things. We've covered this before when you were grubbing round in the listener configuration looking for channels

b) Being really, really literal. Having tripped over the display process command, what's wrong with DISPLAY PROCESS(*)?

c) Not properly researching things. Why look for processes when it's the trigger information you're after (which contains the process information)?
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Learn how to search.




Or this is going to feel like crawling over broken glass.

You should also consider methods by which you can get this "senior" you claimed to have to do some proper mentoring.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 10:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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do u realy think m so naive that i wouldn't have tried it

I tried

display process(*)

at the first go after that i looked into the file system,

and it also showed the same result as the above.
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do u realy think m so naive that i wouldn't have tried it




ankurlodhi wrote:
and it also showed the same result as the above.


Which should raise some eyebrows, and cause you to wonder if these "triggered" queues are really triggered. And go off and check that.

Which is where you should have started.
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Vitor wrote:
ankurlodhi wrote:
do u realy think m so naive that i wouldn't have tried it




ankurlodhi wrote:
and it also showed the same result as the above.


Which should raise some eyebrows, and cause you to wonder if these "triggered" queues are really triggered. And go off and check that.

Which is where you should have started.


And also check the queue usage... a triggered queue is different from a triggered channel where the xmit queue shows trigger yes and a known initq.

You might want to the passage about triggered channels in the intercommunications manual.

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ankurlodhi
PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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i know u think of me being a dumb one.. but its i dont care untill i can learn and dont prove my self to the world.

and one more thing i just find out document about trigger which has methode of triggering also with environment variable and application.
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