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| Aragosta |
 Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 9:01 am Post subject: MQ is included with WMB, right? |
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Hello all.
A licensing question...
MQ is included with WMB. Is that accurate?
Just found that on all my WMB LPARs every time I add processors my software PVU upgrade invoice includes separate line items for WMB and MQ, both licensing and maintenance.
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 9:09 am Post subject: Re: MQ is included with WMB, right? |
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| Aragosta wrote: |
| A licensing question... |
Only your IBM rep can answer that.
| Aragosta wrote: |
| MQ is included with WMB. Is that accurate? |
Not entirely accurate.
| Aragosta wrote: |
| Just found that on all my WMB LPARs every time I add processors my software PVU upgrade invoice includes separate line items for WMB and MQ, both licensing and maintenance. |
You commonly find that a WMQ install on a distributed box that's only used to support WMB is swept into the WMB license. That tends to be less common on z/OS where the WMQ software is more shared, especially as processors dance around the machine.
But I repeat my first point - your licensing arrangement with IBM is what your site negociated with your IBM account rep. It's not what my site negociated or any one else's site negociated.
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| lancelotlinc |
| Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 9:31 am Post subject: |
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| Aragosta |
| Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 9:33 am Post subject: |
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Thank you for the prompt response.
I have posed the question to my IBM rep. His immediate response was 'yep', then I explained the situation we are seeing... being hit with both MQ and WMB on the invoices.
In this case the LPARs are on AIX... P5xx, P6xx & P7xx boxes. They are distributed dedicated WMB LPARS. Across the board we are being hit with both costs.
I was hoping to verify my understanding, which matches what you stated.
Thanks again. Much appreciated. |
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 9:35 am Post subject: |
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| lancelotlinc wrote: |
| You may find better performance and licensing on distributed platforms like AIX or Linux. |
Or just get a better deal out of your IBM rep. It's interesting how often buying zSeries hardware can facilitate that.... 
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| Vitor |
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| Aragosta wrote: |
| I have posed the question to my IBM rep. His immediate response was 'yep', then I explained the situation we are seeing... being hit with both MQ and WMB on the invoices. |
Could it be that IBM gets an invoice wrong? 
That I have lived to see the day...
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| In this case the LPARs are on AIX... P5xx, P6xx & P7xx boxes. |
Bad habit. I hear "LPAR" and assume z/OS. 
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| mqmatt |
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IBM WebSphere MQ (Distributed environments only): the Program includes a limited-use license in respect of IBM WebSphere MQ V7.0.1. Licensee is authorized to install and use WebSphere MQ V7.0.1 in association with Licensee's use of the Program components, as follows:
- for every deployment of the Broker Runtime component, Licensee is authorized to install and use one license of WebSphere MQ V7.0.1 in accordance with the terms and conditions of that program.
- this license must be used only for messages generated by the components of the Program, and not for any other purpose (to use WebSphere MQ V7.0.1 for any other purpose, Licensee must acquire a separate (unrestricted) Proof of Entitlement which authorizes such use of a WebSphere MQ V7.0.1 software product).
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| smdavies99 |
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So the limited use WMQ license allows Broker to generate MQ messages but not consume them?
Dow this mean you can't connect a WMQ Client app to the Broker QM and write messages but reading them is ok?
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