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| Vitor |
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Looks like I may have had the pleasure of beig fed some bullsh*t from an irate customer IT dept then...
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If they're claiming it's an MQ problem almost certainly. MQ errors (or at least common ones) are 2nnn
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| jefflowrey |
| Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 7:58 am Post subject: |
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| Vitor wrote: |
| You're a talented amature. Let me know when you're ready for the big leagues. |
Vitor has the good fortune to be British, who of course invented sarcasm.
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| Vitor |
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| Vitor wrote: |
| You're a talented amature. Let me know when you're ready for the big leagues. |
Vitor has the good fortune to be British, who of course invented sarcasm. |
And sports. Our other great talent is to invent sports that other people are better than us at. Cricket, Rugby, Soccer, the list goes on and on.... 
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| LouML |
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| Vitor wrote: |
| stev1ef wrote: |
Looks like I may have had the pleasure of beig fed some bullsh*t from an irate customer IT dept then...
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If they're claiming it's an MQ problem almost certainly. MQ errors (or at least common ones) are 2nnn |
Some bad programmer may have coded it so that when an MQ error is received, instead of just displaying the Reason Code, he creates his own error message with his own error code.
Trust me, I've seen this happen.  |
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| Vitor |
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| Vitor wrote: |
| stev1ef wrote: |
Looks like I may have had the pleasure of beig fed some bullsh*t from an irate customer IT dept then...
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If they're claiming it's an MQ problem almost certainly. MQ errors (or at least common ones) are 2nnn |
Some bad programmer may have coded it so that when an MQ error is received, instead of just displaying the Reason Code, he creates his own error message with his own error code.
Trust me, I've seen this happen. |
Very possible. Why pass through the IBM reason code when you can build a translation function and mangle it into something incomprehensible. Not only can you charge for building the pointless function, it helps prevent the maintenance contract going elsewhere.
Ok, I'm cynical as well as sarcastic. 
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| stev1ef |
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Thanks for the compliment on my first day of MQ and not having a single minutes experience as a developer so I haven't a Danny as to what it's written in.
Usage - well whenever I suppose the application that receives the information is fired up and that I'm afraid is whenever the user and has no schedule as they do it manually.
Big Leagues eh - I bet you're Mum's really proud of you. |
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| stev1ef |
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Yep look like me and Vik are sarcasm buddies
I know I've been a bit brash today but it was a good way to get to know you guys
I think I'm now going to assault my developer and the client IT dept.
Wish me luck |
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 8:22 am Post subject: |
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| Big Leagues eh - I bet you're Mum's really proud of you. |
She thinks I should get a proper job. I can't find anything else which pays so much for doing so little; I also suspect I'm alergic to work - it brings me out in a sweat.
So you've been given an application error from an application you have no experience of, which employs a technology you've never used, throws an error code which needs the source code you don't have to interpret, occurs at unpredictable times and all runs on a set of unsupported, obsolute and out of support software at a client site you've no access to?
It's not just me that needs a better job......
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| stev1ef |
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You've pretty much nailed it on apart from the server with the sourcecode got zapped by our moronic systems manager to free up a server so he can watch YouTube on, therefore no sourcecode.
The developer without this and who can only speak limited English, being one of our Eastern European friends is about as useful as... (something to do with donkey's rectum)
But on a lighter note we do have remote access but only to the MQclient
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Not to put to fine a point on it, but you're pretty much in the same situation as most MQ administrators.
A typical day goes like
1) Arrive at office and start coffee maker
2) listen to someone scream that MQ is broken again
3) show them the error they made, and why it's actually their fault that their code decided to drop message buffers without logging the fact, and process persistent messages outside syncpoint
4) pour coffee
5) go to step 2.
6) drink coffee
Edit: I forgot step
3a) Explain to them that, no, MQ can't work around this problem for them.
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Easily the best thread on mqseries.net in the past year! Mehrdad, give stev1ef a mug! Send 1 to vitor automatically every month (stamp a MSFT Windows logo in the bottom of them). 
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| Mehrdad |
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| Easily the best thread on mqseries.net in the past year! Mehrdad, give stev1ef a mug! Send 1 to vitor automatically every month (stamp a MSFT Windows logo in the bottom of them). |
Am keeping an eye on it  At one point I thought it was heading for a  then a  .
Doubtful we have seen the end of this threat just yet. Anxiously awaiting the outcome of 'I think I'm now going to assault my developer and the client IT dept'
At this rate it's heading for 'most replied to' on it's own and we still got 3 weeks to go to rack up the 'viewed' counts too. |
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 12:24 pm Post subject: |
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| PeterPotkay wrote: |
| Send 1 to vitor automatically every month (stamp a MSFT Windows logo in the bottom of them). |
Thank you (I think!)
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| Vitor |
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Anxiously awaiting the outcome of 'I think I'm now going to assault my developer and the client IT dept'
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Me too - puts my trout in the shade! 
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| bower5932 |
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For what it is worth, the 3265 could be a WMQ error:
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C:\>mqrc 3265
3265 0x00000cc1 MQRCCF_CFBF_PARM_ID_ERROR
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However, I doubt that this program has been working all along and has now started using a bad parameter id. |
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