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zpat
PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 5:48 am    Post subject: WMQTool no longer free Reply with quote

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WMQTool is no longer free, it costs $499 per user.

www.niratul.com
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neelatul
PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 9:34 am    Post subject: Free Licenses Reply with quote

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Yes, that is true!

To appreciate the efforts and time spent on this forum of MQ World, if interested, I offer FREE licenses to all those grand masters who have more than 2000 posts. Simply write me with your mqseries.net member id.

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- Atul Andharia
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Michael Dag
PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 10:09 am    Post subject: Re: Free Licenses Reply with quote

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neelatul wrote:
Yes, that is true!

To appreciate the efforts and time spent on this forum of MQ World, if interested, I offer FREE licenses to all those grand masters who have more than 2000 posts. Simply write me with your mqseries.net member id.

Regards.
- Atul Andharia

that's generous, that even excludes brandon!

Good luck on your new venture, I hope you make some money too.
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RogerLacroix
PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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zpat wrote:
WMQTool is no longer free, it costs $499 per user.

Good to know. I'll need to move it from the Free MQ Tools page to the Commercial MQ Tools page.

neelatul wrote:
Yes, that is true!

To appreciate the efforts and time spent on this forum of MQ World, if interested, I offer FREE licenses to all those grand masters who have more than 2000 posts. Simply write me with your mqseries.net member id.

That's 9 whole users and 3 of them are IBM employees.

Code:
1     jefflowrey   10803
2     kirani        3710
3     vennela       3653
4     fjb_saper     3176
5     PeterPotkay   2966
6     wschutz       2696
7     jmac          2675
8     bower5932     2579
9     EddieA        2119

Attention receiptents - please exit stage left. The other 14023 registered users of mqseries.net, please do not let the door hit you on the way out!! (Move it, move it, move it...)

Michael Dag wrote:
that's generous, that even excludes brandon!

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11     bduncan   1524

Only 476 posts to go for the owner of the site that is giving neelatul the ability to promote his commercial product.

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jefflowrey
PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 10:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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4 of those on that list are IBM employees.

Actually, I only know for sure that three of them AREN'T. So up to 7 of them could be IBM employees.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 12:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I have no connection with the product, although I have frequently recommended it as a freeware tool.

But it seems to have gone from one extreme (free) to the other (quite pricey).

This seems to value the product in total at over $1m if it sells 2000+ licenses. Whereas the product gives the impression of being developed in someone's spare time.

It certainly has good potential if the documentation is made more professional, the bugs ironed out, the user interface made more consistent, the speed improved in some respects and so on.

However I do think it is over-priced at present.
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neelatul
PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 1:47 pm    Post subject: Right said Reply with quote

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Zpat,

I appreciate your neutral comments.

I agree that the tool has been a lower priority project since last 5 years. But I do not agree about its potential of 2000+ licenses. It is way toooo optimistic. If that would have been the case, there are number of people here who know bits and bytes of MQ and can even develop a better software.

- Atul
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RogerLacroix
PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 9:19 pm    Post subject: Re: WMQTool no longer free Reply with quote

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zpat wrote:
WMQTool is no longer free, it costs $499 per user.

Did you notice that there is also a yearly support cost of $499 too - and its email-only support!!
http://www.niratul.com/wmqtool002b.htm

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 12:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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support & maintaince fees are usually between 15 and 20 % annually,
I personally use 15% for my product(s).
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Michael Dag wrote:
support & maintaince fees are usually between 15 and 20 % annually,
I personally use 15% for my product(s).

The range I have seen is 15% to 30%. But for 30%, you usually get 1 person dedicated to the account.

For MQVE, MQVB & MQBT since they are Java, hence cross-platform, I don't charge for support or v1.* upgrades. But for MQAUSX & MQSSX, I have had to purchase 12 servers so far (and still growing) to compile it natively. Hence, I charge a 15% annual maintenance fee.

That's my 2 cents.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 3:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What a rip off! I have been using WMQTool in the past but for that price its not worth it. There are other tools out there which are far cheaper.

Mr Atul you have a good little product there but I think at that price you will only get a few buyers.
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HubertKleinmanns
PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 6:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Fine, at this moment I need only 1805 posts to get a free version - how long do I have time .

Or I still use my favorite tool MQMON (SupportPac MO71) .
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 7:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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HubertKleinmanns wrote:
Fine, at this moment I need only 1805 posts to get a free version - how long do I have time .

Or I still use my favorite tool MQMON (SupportPac MO71) .


I guess the real question is whether Jeff gets 5 licenses, because he has 5 times 2000 posts.

So we just start of a completely meaningless discussion, and you will get your free license in no time
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HubertKleinmanns
PostPosted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 11:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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sebastianhirt wrote:
HubertKleinmanns wrote:
Fine, at this moment I need only 1805 posts to get a free version - how long do I have time .

Or I still use my favorite tool MQMON (SupportPac MO71) .


I guess the real question is whether Jeff gets 5 licenses, because he has 5 times 2000 posts.

So we just start of a completely meaningless discussion, and you will get your free license in no time


Maybe Jeff shares his posts
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 4:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I certainly have no need for a license for this tool.

But I have no idea if neelatul will let me transfer the one or several free licenses.
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