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anveshita
PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 8:06 am    Post subject: TEST 292 IBM Certified Solution Designer -Workflow Reply with quote

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I am planning to take the test. However IBM web site is indicating that the test is going to be withdrawn by Jun30 th and there is no new test planned.
1. What does this mean. Does this mean Workflow is no longer going to be worth for one to pursue?
2. Should i wait few more days to see if there goint to be an updated test?

Please share your comments
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jmac
PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 9:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I assume that there will be a new test for Process Server that will be taking the place of the current MQWF test.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 9:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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There already is a WPS Admin test - 093:

http://www-03.ibm.com/certify/tests/edu093.shtml
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vennela
PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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jmac wrote:
I assume that there will be a new test for Process Server that will be taking the place of the current MQWF test.

John:
Is IBM NOT going to release any more new versions of Workflow. I heard lot of customers are trying to migrate from workflow to process server. Is IBM selling MQ Workflow at all or did it stop selling the product? Any idea what the feature of workflow product is?
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anveshita
PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 4:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Same doubts as expressed by Vennela.
1. Is MQ Workflow out of market?
2. Has anyone migrated from MQ Workflow to process server?
3. Is so does the migration need any changes to the application, are is it just install, depoly FDL and you are back in business sort. Please share.
4. What about the licensing costs? If you have MQ Workflow and would like to migrate to process server, does MQ Workflow license cover it?
I wish it would..

We are at MQ Workflow 3.5 and would like to mirate to 3.6. however if process server is going to be the case then we can migrate to the process server as well.
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vennela
PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 6:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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2. Maybe somebody did. But is it successful is the question.
3. A lot of changes to the application. Workflow and WPS are completely two different products except they have the same underlying concept (atleast in terms of workflow based applications).

1 and 4 are for IBM to answer. Most likely the license has to be bought for WPS no matter what. But there might be considreations.
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jmac
PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 6:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I agree with Venny on 3) above.

The products are sufficiently different that I would call it "re-write" not conversion.
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anveshita
PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 8:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Thanks for the comments.
A re-write would send jitters and I wish there is clearn migration.
If anyone happened to contact IBM, please share your comments
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anveshita
PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Here is the scoop:
3.5 workflow will be out of support : Aprl 2007 ( from IBM Web site)
3.6 will be out of support sometime in 2008 and users will be asked to move to process server.
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mqmaniac
PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hello Guru's,

What about " BPEl " was told by many that this is the next version of WF 3.6.
Righjt now we are at 3.5 and plan for 3.6..
But Instead of migrating to 3.6..We are planning to go for BPEl..which is 3.7 I Guess..

If Process Server is the Next Version of MQ WF 3.6..Then would it be 3.8!!

Pls correct me..

Can we consider

BPEL as 3.7 of MQWF...and WPS as 3.8 version of MQWF ????
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jmac
PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 8:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You are very confused.

Process Server is the future IBM Workflow Product.

BPEL is the standard way to describe a business process and is used by Process Server and other vendor's workflow engines.
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