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| praveenkky |
 Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 8:46 am Post subject: Hello |
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Hello Everybody....
I am Praveen
new to this forum
I would like to ask a question in here...
my question is what are the processes running when a Queue Manager is UP??
DO we have any predefined processes or services which are started when a Queue Manager is started
Any help on this issue is well appriciated
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| shashivarungupta |
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| praveenkky wrote: |
DO we have any predefined processes or services which are started when a Queue Manager is started
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Yes.
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| what are the processes running when a Queue Manager is UP?? |
What all you have done in order to find the answer for this question ?
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| bruce2359 |
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I strongly recommend that you first search (here or google) for the answers to your questions. Then, if you can find no answer, post here.
A google search for 'process+mq' or 'proces+list+mq' will lead you to that answer.
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| mqjeff |
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| shashivarungupta |
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| praveenkky wrote: |
| Queue Manager is UP?? |
There is no such STATUS of Qmgr !!
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| Any help on this issue is well appriciated |
Is there any issue going on, thats why you are looking for mq qmgr processes ?
By the way, Welcome to the forum 
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| bruce2359 |
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| praveenkky wrote: |
| Queue Manager is UP?? |
There is no such STATUS of Qmgr !!
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Yes, there is/are. These can be discovered by running the dspmq control command from a c: or $ shell.
Some possibilities:
RUNNING
QUIESCING
ENDED NORMALLLY
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| exerk |
| Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 10:10 am Post subject: |
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| shashivarungupta wrote: |
| ...There is no such STATUS of Qmgr !! |
Pedantically speaking no there isn't, just as pedantically speaking there is no DISPOSITION in an initiation queue 
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| shashivarungupta |
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| bruce2359 wrote: |
| shashivarungupta wrote: |
| praveenkky wrote: |
| Queue Manager is UP?? |
There is no such STATUS of Qmgr !!
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Yes, there is/are. These can be discovered by running the dspmq control command from a c: or $ shell.
Some possibilities:
RUNNING
QUIESCING
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 I know that much (I meant to say UP is not the STATUS of any Qmgr) !
STATUS could be .. (for mq v7)
Starting
Running
Running as standby
Running elsewhere
Quiescing
Ending immediately
Ending preemptively
Ended normally
Ended immediately
Ended unexpectedly
Ended preemptively
Not available
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| shashivarungupta wrote: |
I know that much (I meant to say UP is not the STATUS of any Qmgr) !
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This reminds me of an often-told story of a hot-air balloonist who was blown far off course by a sudden storm. He finds himself lost, and high above what appears to be thousands of acres of farm land - growing wheat as far as the eye could see.
Far below, he notices a man on a tractor. He allows the balloon descend, and yells down to the man below "Can you tell me where I am?"
The farmer, a career system admin, yells back "You're in a hot-air balloon high above an enormous wheat field!"
Your answer, just like the answer from the sysadmin in the story, was technically correct - but useless.
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| mqjeff |
| Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 10:57 am Post subject: |
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In this case, a technically correct but not strictly helpful answer may actually encourage a poster to do investigation.
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| bruce2359 wrote: |
| This reminds me of an often-told story of a hot-air balloonist who was blown far off course by a sudden storm. He finds himself lost, and high above what appears to be thousands of acres of farm land - growing wheat as far as the eye could see. |
The more technical version I heard was a helecopter pilot who got lost and, having lost radio contact with the ground, wrote a note "Where am I?" & showed it to some office workers in a nearby tall building.
After almost 10 nerve wracking minutes, where one person kept waving to him and everyone else seemed to be running round, all the workers lined up at the windows and, raising cards in perfect order, spelt out "You are in a helecopter". Seeing this, the pilot headed straight for the airport and landed safely.
Telling this story, a news reporter was astounded he made it. "Oh it was easy", said the pilot, "it took ages for anything to happen even though it was clear something was going on & when it did, it was visually attractive, technically accurate but utterly unhelpful. So I knew it was the Microsoft building".
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| bruce2359 |
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Even better, Vitor.
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| mqjeff wrote: |
In this case, a technically correct but not strictly helpful answer may actually encourage a poster to do investigation.
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Or, more likely,it will be another demonstration that it is nearly impossible to have an intelligent conversation with a technical person. This is the usual cry from end-users after contacting the helpdesk.
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| gbaddeley |
| Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 7:11 pm Post subject: Re: Hello |
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| praveenkky wrote: |
...my question is what are the processes running when a Queue Manager is UP??
DO we have any predefined processes or services which are started when a Queue Manager is started
Any help on this issue is well appriciated |
By UP, I assume you mean RUNNING. The MQ internal processes vary from platform to platform, MQ version to version. IBM can change them at any version or FixPack release without telling you. Some Windows and UNIX processes are hinted at http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/wmqv7/v7r0/index.jsp?topic=/com.ibm.mq.amqzag.doc/fa22290_.htm
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| shashivarungupta |
| Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 11:22 pm Post subject: |
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@bruce :
http://mqseries.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=51176&view=previous&sid=e46a03f02b77546bcd3ba3ed9cb6c97e
I'm sorry to say, the Terminology conflict between UP / RUNNING is not that new ...
A comment came like this :- "I knew that you knew that. But newbies might take your UP literally, and believe if the channel status doesn't say UP that it is a bad thing."
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