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catwood2
PostPosted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 2:04 pm    Post subject: Q: Broker Service for Independent System Management Agents Reply with quote

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I would be interested in reading about success/usefulness of utilizing the Broker Events ($SYS topic) in supporting the broker environment. Apart from this board (of course) I have been reading about this in the broker manuals and looked at the Tivoli guides. Our intention is to grow our own - as I'm assuming is common.
A couple of questions getting tossed around here:
1. If we have adequate monitoring for the broker qmgr aren't we more or less covered in broker monitoring?
2. Can we basically publish the data contained in the operations tab in v2 Control Center with these event messages?

We support MQSI, WMQI & WBIMB environments.
Appreciate thoughts.
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kirani
PostPosted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 11:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Well, if you are developing your own app to monitor the broker then you will need people with specific skill-set to support the system and monitoring app. Also, you need to do extensive testing on your monitoring tool and make sure it's covering all possible scenarios. What is the monitoring application goes down? How will you manage looping message flows, dataflow engine getting abended/restarted etc.
It's worth looking at some tools in the market to monitor Broker software. Some of the Vendors are,
1. contact admin
2. Candle/IBM
3. MQ Software
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jefflowrey
PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 5:52 am    Post subject: Re: Q: Broker Service for Independent System Management Agen Reply with quote

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catwood2 wrote:
1. If we have adequate monitoring for the broker qmgr aren't we more or less covered in broker monitoring?


No.

How are you going to detect when your message flow decides to destroy a message?

How are you going to detect when your message flow puts out bad data?

How are you going to detect when your message flow GETS bad data?
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