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mq_crazy
PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 9:48 am    Post subject: MO71 issue Reply with quote

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I am trying to add two locations under MO71 to administer the queue managers. Both the queuemanagers have same name, but in different location and i gave different names for the location field in MO71. Problem is that it says that i can't have same queue manager name for different locations. Thats strange even though its same name, but they are in completely diff addresses and i am giving different location names too. I don't know why does it matter to it. Mind you, we are using same queuemanager names coz they are in different environments and doesn't talk to each other. Has anyone faced this issue??
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PeterPotkay
PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 10:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yes. There is no way to have 2 QMs with the same name in MO71. And I am happy that it is that way. You are not supposed to have to QMs with the same name anyway. Besides, the risk of doing the wrong thing to QM1 when you meant to do it to QM1 is to great if MO71 allowed 2 with the same name.
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mq_crazy
PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 10:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Thanks peter for the info. I see your point, i guess we just have to change the names or try other tool.
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fjb_saper
PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 12:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Have you tried using a qmgr alias ?

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mq_crazy
PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Maybe i will look into it. Anyway thanks for that.
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beezlebub
PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 11:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I have a few w/same name. Click 'File' then 'copy location' Add the distinquishing characters to the location as you stated in your previous post. Then, change the queue manager name to anything unique(stick with me). Save it, then 'open location' and change the queue manager name to what you really want, it will save using the duplicated qmgr name.
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mq_crazy
PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hey i have tried your trick, it will allows to save it same name like that, but when you close the MO71 and open it again the other one is gone.
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fjb_saper
PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 1:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Try using a qmgr alias for the second qmgr.

First define the alias as
def qr(myalias) rqmname(thisqmgr)

then create a new entry in MO71 for qmgr myalias.

See how that works...

Enjoy
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mq_crazy
PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 8:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hey saper, i tried your suggestion, but didn't help. Anyway thanks for that.
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mq_crazy
PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 9:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Is there any other tool like MO71 thats good and free that i can use for remote administration of queue managers that allows to monitor multiple queue managers with same name??
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jefflowrey
PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 9:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I doubt there is anything that will reliably monitor queue managers with the same name, that also has a zero price.

It is generally frowned upon to have two queue managers with the same name, regardless of whether they are in the same network or not. For exactly this reason:
PeterPotkay wrote:
the risk of doing the wrong thing to QM1 when you meant to do it to QM1 is too great

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sebastianhirt
PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 9:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You can try MQJExplore. I found that also pretty cool
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mq_crazy
PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 9:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Ya i know its not safe to have same QM's, but at the same time i can't really change the names. Does MQJexplore needs MQ server on the desktop or does client is enough??
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jefflowrey
PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 9:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'd thought that there was a client version of MO71.

Then you could create different .bat files or something that would set up the client configuration for your different environments.
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vennela
PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 10:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Client is enough
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