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| mq_developer |
 Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2002 9:45 am Post subject: Is PCF supported on OS/390 |
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Voyager
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All,
Got a question for ya .
IS MQ PCF comands supported on MQ 5.2 on OS/390 . I am trying to
write a program to monitor queues on MVS using this . Just like to know is it feasible to do this using PCF on MVS.
Also in which manual was it stated whether its supported or NOT ....
Hope i wont get a -ve answer .. 
--Ram-- |
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| kolban |
| Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2002 10:08 am Post subject: |
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| Sorry ... its not supported. |
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| Nimrod |
| Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2002 6:55 am Post subject: A Reason why |
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For a feasable explanation as to why PCF is not applicable on MVS I can answer this:
MQSeries for MVS was developed by a completely different team and department than MQSeries for open systems, and although the basic idea is preserved, it works and behaves quite differently from any other open-platform MQ.
Thus, besides requiring a completely different set of administration skills, it does not support PCF simply because it does not use PCF as the format for it's messages.
I can recommend, however, using the Rexx or Netview script interface for MQSeries (one support pack or other), which allows you to check the status of MQ objets in your script. It's quite simple.
Although it's far from being a robust administrative interface, it usually does the trick.
Nim
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| zpat |
| Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2002 12:44 am Post subject: |
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| I think contact admin sell a MQ/PCF command server for MVS. |
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| mq_developer |
| Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2002 2:43 pm Post subject: |
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Voyager
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Kolban , Nim & zpat ...
Thank you all for your replies .... |
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| PeterPotkay |
| Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2002 6:27 pm Post subject: |
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One of the main points they kept emphasizing at the Dallas MQ conferance was how they were pushing to having distributed MQ and z/OS MQ be more and more similiar. But, yes, still no PCF on the mainframe. Maybe 5.4 or 6?
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| royr |
| Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 8:53 am Post subject: |
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Hi,
Sorry to bring this topic back from the dead, but...
The "Programmable Command Formats and Administration Interface" book states here:
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The Programmable Command Formats described in this book are supported by:
WebSphere MQ for AIX, V5.3
WebSphere MQ for HP-UX, V5.3
WebSphere MQ for iSeries(TM), V5.3
WebSphere MQ for Linux for Intel and Linux for zSeries, V5.3
WebSphere MQ for Solaris, V5.3
WebSphere MQ for Windows, V5.3
WebSphere MQ for z/OS(TM), V5.3
MQSeries for OS/2(R) Warp, V5.3
MQSeries for Compaq NonStop Kernel, V5.1
MQSeries for Compaq OpenVMS Alpha, V5.1
MQSeries for Sun Solaris, Intel Platform Edition, V5.1
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BUT - just a few pages later, the exact opposite is stated:
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PCF commands are not supported by WebSphere MQ for z/OS.
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And - searching the PDF version for "z/OS" results many occurrences of "[this or that] is supported on z/OS".
So - supported or unsupported? Is it possible that WMQ for z/OS uses PCF for event pushing, but its command server only supports MQSC?
-Roy. |
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| kevinf2349 |
| Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 11:24 am Post subject: |
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It is not supported in 5.3
I believe it is going to be in the next release but I have seen nothing definative yet.
I think the confusion of support comes from the fact that you can build and send PCF format messages from z/OS but you can't yet have a z/OS queue manger respond to PCF commands.
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| EddieA |
| Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 12:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Is it possible that WMQ for z/OS uses PCF for event pushing, but its command server only supports MQSC |
In it's current incarnation, that about sums it up.
There's nothing in z/OS to stop you creating, and reading, PCF messages. It's just that the (IBM provided) Command Server doesn't "talk" PCF.
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| BillyBob |
| Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 1:26 pm Post subject: |
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| PeterPotkay wrote: |
| One of the main points they kept emphasizing at the Dallas MQ conferance was how they were pushing to having distributed MQ and z/OS MQ be more and more similiar. But, yes, still no PCF on the mainframe. Maybe 5.4 or 6? |
PCF is now supported as part of MQSeries V6. 5.2 on z/OS goes out of support soon so V6 might be the way forward for you. |
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| PeterPotkay |
| Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 1:46 pm Post subject: |
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| BillyBob wrote: |
PCF is now supported as part of MQSeries V6. 5.2 on z/OS goes out of support soon so V6 might be the way forward for you. |
5.2 went out of support a while back.
5.3 goes out of support 10-13-2005.
There is no end of support date for 5.3.1 yet.
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| techno |
| Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 2:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Is this official? 5.3 going out of support??? |
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| PeterPotkay |
| Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 5:32 pm Post subject: |
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| wschutz |
| Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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pcf for zOS has been supported (for event messages) in V5... V6 for zOS will support pcf commands (just like distributed mq), so you can write a program to monitor queues via pcf on zOS MQ V6. 
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| kjreddy |
| Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 1:38 am Post subject: |
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how do i invoke the PCF on z/OS ?
Regards.,
Jagadish |
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