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| offshore |
 Posted: Wed May 18, 2005 9:28 am Post subject: MQ 6 File XFer Option |
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All,
I downloaded the MQ 6 beta and installed it on a Windows box. I have to get used to the Eclipse interface. 
Anyways, I was wondering about the File Transfer option. This seems like a neat thing to do with a lot of potential. In particular, I was curious as to if applications folks will be able to utilize this via a program?
Maybe they could in previous versions and I just never knew...
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| jefflowrey |
| Posted: Wed May 18, 2005 9:31 am Post subject: |
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It didn't exist in previous versions.
I doubt it can be used from a program - and why would you need to? Just put your data on a queue rather than write it to a file and then put the file on a queue.
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| Posted: Wed May 18, 2005 10:06 am Post subject: |
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Well,
I was thinking like for example if a place of business creates a PDF or HTML or something of that neature and then sends it to another company.
Once that file is create and a condition is met, then MQ could be the transport mechanism to do that. Instead of "reading in" the file, it could just grab the file and transport it. Like and FTP or there is product called ConnectDirect that transports files.
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| fjb_saper |
| Posted: Wed May 18, 2005 10:26 am Post subject: |
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| offshore wrote: |
Well,
I was thinking like for example if a place of business creates a PDF or HTML or something of that neature and then sends it to another company.
Once that file is create and a condition is met, then MQ could be the transport mechanism to do that. Instead of "reading in" the file, it could just grab the file and transport it. Like and FTP or there is product called ConnectDirect that transports files.
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The FTP capabilities of V6 are still quite primitive. There are other products out there that do it much better with full trace etc... (see CommerceQuest PM4Data)
Now if you are happy with ConnectDirect, I have used the product and found it to be very satisfying specifically at suppressing "false positives". (FTP aborted file incomplete and normal ftp rc 0. rc is not 0 with CD in this case...)
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| jefflowrey |
| Posted: Wed May 18, 2005 10:35 am Post subject: |
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Yeah.
I've spent time building systems to respond to incoming and outgoing files.
And spent a lot of time trying to debug other people's ConnectDirect profiles, too.
This File Transfer app is not a robust tool, it is not useful for exchanging data with business partners... at best it is a tool to allow your internal users to abuse your MQ Network to exchange their funny downloaded movies... Or a way for you to "work around" the limitations of your environments to get necessary files to machines that "don't allow" file transfers.
I.e. - Don't install File Transfer on your production boxes!
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| fjb_saper |
| Posted: Wed May 18, 2005 10:45 am Post subject: |
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Jeff,
From what I understood it now comes with the product (V6) and an eclipse GUI. So about not installing it, I don't know if that is an option but I would certainly not recommend its use but for the very rudimentary tasks. Remember it does it only in binary mode. So no change of CRLF into LF only even if your message is text only, or from ASCII to EBCDIC...
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| offshore |
| Posted: Wed May 18, 2005 10:45 am Post subject: |
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Cool...thanks for the responses all.
Why shouldn't it be installed on prod boxes...just curious.
Figure it's not all the robust yet (being the first edition), but I think down the future, if IBM did put some R&D into that would be neat. Think of MQ as an all inclusive messaging package. Or maybe the direction is to only "deal" with messages and not files.
Just a thought.
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| jefflowrey |
| Posted: Wed May 18, 2005 12:33 pm Post subject: |
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It does come with the product, AFAIK.
The beta had it as an optional install.
Offshore - the reason not to install it on your production boxes is because it's a way to load unknown files to your production boxes! Someone could, potentially, overwrite any file on your machine using this tool - if, for instance, it runs as the MQ system user and that user has lots of access to lots of things.
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