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| csmith28 |
 Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 1:03 pm Post subject: Well, this is different.... |
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Found this on one of my Dev Servers today:
----- amqrmrsa.c : 467 --------------------------------------------------------
04/26/05 12:13:12
AMQ9519: Channel '(ê! ìÍÌ<ñëä<ͼÄÄÄ' not found.
EXPLANATION:
The requested operation failed because the program could not find a definition
of channel '(ê! ìÍÌ<ñëä<ͼÄÄÄ'.
ACTION:
Check that the name is specified correctly and the channel definition is
available.
----- amqrcdfa.c : 1085 -------------------------------------------------------
04/26/05 12:13:12
AMQ9999: Channel program ended abnormally.
EXPLANATION:
Channel program '(ê! ìÍÌ<ñëä<ͼÄÄÄ' ended abnormally.
ACTION:
Look at previous error messages for channel program '(ê! ìÍÌ<ñëä<ͼÄÄÄ' in
the error files to determine the cause of the failure.
----- amqrmrsa.c : 467 --------------------------------------------------------
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| jefflowrey |
| Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 1:08 pm Post subject: |
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Did you recently acquire a partner in R'lyeh?
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| fjb_saper |
| Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 6:11 pm Post subject: |
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Check to make sure none of your objects are damaged.
You might have to delete and recreate the channel or restore it from media...
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| bduncan |
| Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 11:24 pm Post subject: |
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Have you tried reinstalling Windows?
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| bduncan |
| Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 11:40 pm Post subject: |
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Chris,
Since you're in Arizona I'm curious what you think about this whole Minuteman thing. Honestly, if they're trying to catch illegals, they should just head to the local Home Depot
I'm not trying to be un-P.C., but I'm constantly amazed at how many guys are lined up on the sidewalk in front of H.D. at 8am when I drive to work everyday. And whenever I go out to lunch, they're all gone, which tells me *somebody* is hiring them. Those are the people I think we should be going after. I can't blame someone for trying to put food on the table...
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| Nigelg |
| Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 1:50 am Post subject: |
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The channel name looks like it has come from some EBCDIC machine and has not been converted. I tried to convert it from 500 (usual mainframe CCSID) to 850 (AIX CCSID), but had no luck - the characters do not come to anything sensible.
Do you have the actual hex characters in the error log, not just the printed version? |
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| csmith28 |
| Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 5:48 am Post subject: |
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@jeff, none from R'lyeh but I do have some new customers from Albonia using WebLogic.
@fjb, no damaged objects.
@brandon, This is an AIX box but I'll try it.
I think the MMP acomplished what it set out to do. It brought nation wide attention to the problem of our un-secure borders. Not all the guys standing around H.D. get hired every day. The reason they are all gone by noon is that the ones that don't get picked up for day labor by 09:30 or 10:00 am generally disperse on their own because chances of getting work after then are very slim. Even the ones that are standing around at 08:00 are grasping at straws. Most of the contractors, construction crews and landscapers here start at daylight.
I suppose if there is ever an episode of COP's with the Border Patrol in Phoenix you will see some of them arrested.
@Nigel, nope. Those entries came from the qmgrs/QMG/errors/AMQERR01.LOG and no FFST were created.
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| Nigelg |
| Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 6:34 am Post subject: |
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What I meant by the hex characters was the values of the bytes making up the channel name. I had to guess what they were from the printed characters, for example I with a diaresis on top is hex character xCF in CCSID 819. You can get this dump by running 'od -cx' against the AMQERR01.LOG file, and looking for the error string in the output.
It looks like this:
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0000360 \n A M Q 9 5 1 9
0a41 4d51 3935 3139
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and so on, the interpretation of the character above the hex values.
I have seen something like this recently, where a channel on a mainframe qmgr with a default CCSID of 1208 (!) tried to start a channel, and failed to convert the channel name when it sent it to the UNIX box. The error log looked much like yours.
If we have the hex characters we can make a stab at converting them to a CCSID we can read on a UNIX machine. We will then know what channel is trying to start, and you should be able to trace it back to the originating machine and qmgr. |
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| jefflowrey |
| Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 6:42 am Post subject: |
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| bduncan wrote: |
| which tells me *somebody* is hiring them. Those are the people I think we should be going after. I can't blame someone for trying to put food on the table... |
This is kind of contradictory. You're choosing enforcement based on which people are trying to put food on the table and how.
One set of people are trying to put food on the table by sneaking over the boarder and working for any amount of money they can get.
The other set of people are trying to put food on the table by hiring the cheapest laborers they can possibly find, so that they can actually make a profit at the price they were forced to quote due to a very tight market and a very restricted price point. For example, I'm certainly not going to pay more than $1,000 to get my 20x20 yard landscaped - at least not for labor.
So, like everything else, it's a complicated issue.
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| I have seen something like this recently, where a channel on a mainframe qmgr with a default CCSID of 1208 (!) tried to start a channel, and failed to convert the channel name when it sent it to the UNIX box. The error log looked much like yours. |
This is basically what I thought was going on. But I didn't know the tools for translating the channel name back into what it "should" be, or the reasons why the channel name wasn't getting converted.
So I made a joke, instead.
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| csmith28 |
| Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 7:44 am Post subject: |
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@Nigel, Oh, I wasn't familiar with the "od" command. I'll try it later and post the results.
@jeff, I think Brandon was talking about arresting the people that were hiring the illegals that are hanging out at HD's and other such places but personally I think both should be arrested. Their mere presents at these places create a nuisance from litter, public defication and other public safety hazards.
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| csmith28 |
| Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 7:57 am Post subject: |
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OK Nigel, Here's what I got from od -cx:
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0000020 4 1 \n A M Q 9 5 1 9 : C h a n
3431 0a41 4d51 3935 3139 3a20 4368 616e
0000040 n e l ' ( ê ^ F ! ì Í Ì ^ F
6e65 6c20 2728 ea5e 4621 a0ec cdcc 5e46
0000060 < ñ ë ^ F ä < Í ¼ Ä Ä Ä ' n o
3cf1 eb5e 46e4 3ccd bcc4 c4c4 2720 6e6f
0000100 t f o u n d . \n \n E X P L A N
7420 666f 756e 642e 0a0a 4558 504c 414e
0000120 A T I O N : \n T h e r e q u e
4154 494f 4e3a 0a54 6865 2072 6571 7565
0000140 s t e d o p e r a t i o n f
7374 6564 206f 7065 7261 7469 6f6e 2066
0000160 a i l e d b e c a u s e t h
6169 6c65 6420 6265 6361 7573 6520 7468
0000200 e p r o g r a m c o u l d
6520 7072 6f67 7261 6d20 636f 756c 6420
0000220 n o t f i n d a d e f i n
6e6f 7420 6669 6e64 2061 2064 6566 696e
0000240 i t i o n \n o f c h a n n e l
6974 696f 6e0a 6f66 2063 6861 6e6e 656c
0000260 ' ( ê ^ F ! ì Í Ì ^ F < ñ ë
2027 28ea 5e46 21a0 eccd cc5e 463c f1eb
0000300 ^ F ä < Í ¼ Ä Ä Ä ' . \n A C T I
5e46 e43c cdbc c4c4 c427 2e0a 4143 5449
0000320 O N : \n C h e c k t h a t t
4f4e 3a0a 4368 6563 6b20 7468 6174 2074
0000340 h e n a m e i s s p e c i
6865 206e 616d 6520 6973 2073 7065 6369
0000360 f i e d c o r r e c t l y a
6669 6564 2063 6f72 7265 6374 6c79 2061
0000400 n d t h e c h a n n e l d
6e64 2074 6865 2063 6861 6e6e 656c 2064
0000420 e f i n i t i o n i s \n a v a
6566 696e 6974 696f 6e20 6973 0a61 7661
0000440 i l a b l e . \n - - - - - a m
696c 6162 6c65 2e0a 2d2d 2d2d 2d20 616d
0000460 q r c d f a . c : 1 0 8 5
7172 6364 6661 2e63 203a 2031 3038 3520
0000500 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
2d2d 2d2d 2d2d 2d2d 2d2d 2d2d 2d2d 2d2d |
Not sure what it means.
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| jefflowrey |
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| csmith28 wrote: |
| @jeff, I think Brandon was talking about arresting the people that were hiring the illegals that are hanging out at HD's and other such places |
Yeah - I know. But both groups are trying to put food on the table, in different ways.
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| but personally I think both should be arrested. |
I have noticed you seem to like simple solutions to complex problems.
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| csmith28 |
| Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 8:29 am Post subject: |
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What is so comlex about this problem. They are both violating the law.
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| jefflowrey |
| Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 8:35 am Post subject: |
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| csmith28 wrote: |
| What is so comlex about this problem. They are both violating the law. |
So is almost every single driver on most highways in the U.S.
The complexity comes in trying to prioritize enforcement. This is what Brandon was arguing - that one group should be targeted for enforcement more than the other - and using the economic situation of one group as the basis for targeting the other group.
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| csmith28 |
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| jefflowrey wrote: |
| So is almost every single driver on most highways in the U.S. |
Traffic violations are Civil except under extreme conditions. Being in the US illegally and hiring illegal aliens are both Criminal offenses.
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