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mqfond
PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 6:36 am    Post subject: Loosing messages Reply with quote

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We are having problem where we are loosing messages and don't know where. We have MQ 5.3 CSD08 in win2003 server sending messages to the remote machine, we send some xxx no. of messages and they receive some yyy no. of messages loosing some and don't know where to find. I don't have control of the remote box. I checked that the messages we are sending are persistent, checked the xmitq, dead letter and don't find anything. Where do you think might be loosing???
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bower5932
PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 6:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I find this hard to believe if you are using persistent messages. What are you looking at to see the xxx and the yyy? Are you sure that somebody didn't start picking up the messages on the receiving side? Are you sure that they are all persistent?
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mqfond
PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 7:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I checked that the messages are non persistent and NPMS set as FAST. Maybe thats why they are not guaranteed i guess. If i make it NORMAL does it guarantee non persistent messages??
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bower5932
PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 8:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Your first append indicated that you were sending persistent messages and your second indicated non-persistent. I'm not sure which you are using.

However, the NPMSPEED can definitely come into play with non-persistent messages. FAST indicates that nonpersistent messages might be lost if the channel is lost. NORMAL indicates to not lose them.
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JT
PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I don't have control of the remote box. I checked that the messages we are sending are persistent, checked the xmitq, dead letter and don't find anything.

And what has your counterpart on the remote-end looked at, logs, dead-letter queue.....

Can you substantiate the channel message counts with the remote queue manager?
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MQGuy2000
PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 8:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Check to see if the messages are expiring.
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fjb_saper
PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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check as well your qmgr setup -- in particular if you have a default xmitq queue. I have found that if the qmgr does not know how to route a msg it will go to the default xmiq before it goes to the dlq.

Enjoy
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csmith28
PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Check to see if there are more than one instance of the application listening to the same destination Queue.

Many times I have encountered situations in which it was claimed that messages were not being delivered and in almost every instance it was because there were multiple instances of the same application on diferent servers that had the destination Queue open for Input.
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