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ulasergin
PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 3:52 am    Post subject: Arhitecture question? Reply with quote

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Can I put/get to an MQ Server over internet or do I have to install a MQ Server on our site and put/get to its remote queu so it directs to the other side MQ Server?
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jefflowrey
PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 4:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You can establish a client connection to a queue manager over any TCP/IP network.

You need to examine your business rules and the relationship rules of engagement with your business partner to determine if it makes more sense for you to have a local queue manager.
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bower5932
PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 4:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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And any time that I hear internet, you might want to look at the MQIPT SupportPac. It is MS81 and can be found at:

http://www-1.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?rs=203&uid=swg24006386&loc=en_US&cs=utf-8&lang=en

You might find it useful.
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zpat
PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 4:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You can use SSL channels between clients and queue managers. Or you could establish a VPN over the internet and use a standard connection - this would be my preference.

However bear in mind the advantages of having a local queue manager over a client when the network link is potentially unreliable.
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ulasergin
PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 5:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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on both ends we 'think' the firewall rights are aligned properly.We can telnet to port 1414 on their machine over internet.
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bower5932
PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 6:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Something else to bear in mind is the localaddr parameter. This is used to define the 'address' that you will use locally to get to the other side. If you don't specify this, WMQ will get whatever the tcp/ip stack assigns and it may not be something that your firewall will let through.
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ulasergin
PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 6:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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bower5932 wrote:
Something else to bear in mind is the localaddr parameter. This is used to define the 'address' that you will use locally to get to the other side. If you don't specify this, WMQ will get whatever the tcp/ip stack assigns and it may not be something that your firewall will let through.
thx,I will talk with the network guys to check this
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ulasergin
PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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All ports are open to IP for both parties but still when we say start to the channel its status is 'Retrying'

On the network lever packets are seen from the firewall and NAT router but 'Retrying ' does not change.We could not solve the issue for two weeks

Also selecting the channel from MQ Exporer and using AllTask->Ping gives Unexpected Error (AMQ4048)

Do u have any ideas?
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ulasergin
PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I just noticed the following in the error log but my net search did not give any result

EXPLANATION:
An error has been detected, and the WebSphere MQ error recording routine has
been called. The failing process is process 1816.
ACTION:
Use the standard facilities supplied with your system to record the problem
identifier, and to save the generated output files. Contact your IBM support
center. Do not discard these files until the problem has been resolved.
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Anirud
PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 4:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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ulasergin wrote:
I just noticed the following in the error log but my net search did not give any result

EXPLANATION:
An error has been detected, and the WebSphere MQ error recording routine has
been called. The failing process is process 1816.
ACTION:
Use the standard facilities supplied with your system to record the problem
identifier, and to save the generated output files. Contact your IBM support
center. Do not discard these files until the problem has been resolved.

It means that an FFST has been generated.
If your environment is UNIX, look under
Code:
/var/mqm/errors
and you will see a file AMQ*1816.0.FDC.
Post the header or search with the Probe ID
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ulasergin
PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 10:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The header is below,what does it mean ?

+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
|
| WebSphere MQ First Failure Symptom Report
| =========================================
|
| Date/Time :- Per Nisan 14 09:33:17 GTB Daylight Time 2005
| Host Name :- ITYAZILIM1828 (Windows 2000 Build 2195: Service Pack
| 4)
| PIDS :- 5724B4100
| LVLS :- 530
| Product Long Name :- WebSphere MQ for Windows
| Vendor :- IBM
| Probe Id :- MS099001
| Application Name :- MQM
| Component :- HandleBadMQAIResponse
| Build Date :- Oct 12 2002
| CMVC level :- p000-L021011
| Build Type :- IKAP - (Production)
| UserID :- T05999
| Process Name :- C:\WINNT\system32\mmc.exe
| Process :- 00001816
| Thread :- 00000002
| QueueManager :- MQFFB
| Major Errorcode :- xecF_E_UNEXPECTED_SWITCH |
| Minor Errorcode :- OK
| Probe Type :- MSGAMQ6120
| Probe Severity :- 2
| Probe Description :- AMQ6120: An internal WebSphere MQ error has occurred.
| FDCSequenceNumber :- 0
| Arith1 :- 2195 893
|
+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
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ulasergin
PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 5:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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They are usnig IBM MQ Series 5.2 and we have installed WebSphere MQSeries 5.3 . Can this version difference be the problem?

Are IBM MQ Series and WebSphere MQSeries interoperable?
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vennela
PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 6:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Quote:
Are IBM MQ Series and WebSphere MQSeries interoperable?

Yes
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ulasergin
PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 4:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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This problem is resolved.It is understood that two Win2K machines that MQ servers are installed have different Locale in the Regional Options .

Thank you all for your time.
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