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| anveshita |
 Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 8:40 pm Post subject: modelling question |
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Hello
I have modelling question.
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1. I have a block with two manual activities, say "A" and "B".
2. work item goes gets allotted to user at "A".
3. At "A" , user decides whether it need to go to "B" or not.
4. When "A" decides it needs go to "B", the work item goes to the next activity "B"
5. The block repeats based on some condition. However, on the subsequent iteration I want the work item to go directly to "B", if a certain condition is met. |
My question:
1. Do I need a program before A-->B say (UPES) to check if point 5, is satisfied, then by-pass "A"
some thing like
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program ---->A--->B
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2. I realy do not want to create a program,if it is not needed. If so, how can I handle it |
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| David |
| Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 9:44 pm Post subject: |
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As Workflow doesn't allow a control connector from the start of a block or process, the easiest way is to use an empty activity. Then use a control connector from that to either go to A then B, or B directly.
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empty ------> A -------> B
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The 'Getting started with Buildtime' manual has a section on using empty activities in chapter 5.
Hope that helps,
David. |
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| anveshita |
| Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 11:45 am Post subject: |
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Thanks much. That really helps.
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empty ------> A -------> B
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let us say I have noop activity as shown.
How to give the transition condition for noop.
I have the following limitation.
I can not add a new data container element/modify the existing user data container elements. Had
this been allowed, I could populate it during the first iteration during the
processing of "A" or "B". During the second iteration, I could check this to find out whether it needs to go to "A" or "B".
Instead of user defined datacontainer elements, is there any worfklow generic container I could use for this purpose?
Please let me know if this is not clear.
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| MQSerious |
| Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 11:01 am Post subject: |
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| There is the default data structure...or you could define a new structure. |
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| anveshita |
| Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 12:01 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks
Could you please eloborate on the defaut data structure?
I can not use user defined data structure.
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| I can not add a new data container element/modify the existing user data container |
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| MQSerious |
| Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 12:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Are you using Buildtime or WBI Workbench? Both tools allow you to define data structures. Are you currently using the default data structure or a user-defined one? Are you saying that the requirements for building your Workflow solution prohibit declaration of new structures? I cannot follow. |
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| Ratan |
| Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 1:46 pm Post subject: |
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You have to define a element in your data structure to hold this information.
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| MQSerious |
| Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 2:21 pm Post subject: |
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Me thoughts, exactly.
However, anveshita seems to indicate that the structure SHALL NOT be modified, in which case he would have to define a new structure to contain the element that will be evaluated to express the transition condition. |
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| Ratan |
| Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 2:58 pm Post subject: |
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| However, anveshita seems to indicate that the structure SHALL NOT be modified, in which case he would have to define a new structure to contain the element that will be evaluated to express the transition condition. |
That still needs updating the Top level Data Structure to contain the new Data Structure.
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| jmac |
| Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 3:47 pm Post subject: |
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If you have a constraint that says you can not add a new member to any container, and you have a constraint that says you can not modify the value of any existing container memeber, I don't see how it is going to be possible to do what you desire.
It may be possible that I just don't understand the issue.
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| elvis_gn |
| Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 9:54 pm Post subject: |
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I guess u'll be doing a checkIn of the workitems in "A".
Why dont u set the transition conditions in the control connectors as _RC = 1 and _RC = 0
I am hoping that u'll know at the "empty activity" itself whether the output container is to go to "A" or "B" directly.
Once u do a checkIn(outputContainer, 0/1) it will accordingly go to the respective activity. |
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| jmac |
| Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 5:40 am Post subject: |
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If I understand correctly, the point is that this would be the second time thru the block and A should not run. Also, _RC is only available at the time the activity evaluates the exit condition in the current output container, so it can not be passed around for the second iteration in the look without defining an additional container member.
I really don't understand the restriction, but if you really have to work under the constraints I mentioned in the previous post, the suggestion from elvis can be modified a little to meet your requirements. I assume you are not using the _ACTIVITY_INFO.LevelFrom (Check spelling on this), so you could do as elvis suggests the first pass and set _RC, then map it to the LevelFrom, on around to test in the condition at the NOOP. I really don't like this solution but I think it meets your criteria.
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