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ucbus1
PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2003 6:58 pm    Post subject: when will the FDL changes imported into run time take efect Reply with quote

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I have a process, in which I have changed the data mappings for "step B" in the process. I have exported the process into run time. When will the FDL changes take effect.
I have some instances which already in a step "A"about to reach the step "B". Will my data mappings work with these instances? Or will it take effect with those get created NEW?
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Andy
PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2003 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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MQWF internally maintains versions of a process templates.
All the inflight process instances run as old process templates whereas any new instance started after importing the new FDL will run as new process template. It should be true even in case you change data mapping only.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2003 5:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Whem MQWF creates an instance, it has cloned the entire template (just have a look at the ActivityInstances w/ the api). SO, even if an instance lasts 6 Months and the template changes many times, it will still use the template as it existed the day it was created.
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MaheshPN
PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2003 11:27 am    Post subject: when will the FDL changes imported into run time take efect Reply with quote

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Assuming that you have don't have version control on template, If you change only the users(adding or deleting users to role) belonging to the activity which is not yet started, new changes will effect. Jhon correct me if I am wrong

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jmac
PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2003 11:33 am    Post subject: Re: when will the FDL changes imported into run time take ef Reply with quote

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MaheshPN wrote:
Assuming that you have don't have version control on template, If you change only the users(adding or deleting users to role) belonging to the activity which is not yet started, new changes will effect. Jhon correct me if I am wrong


I don't understand your comment regarding version control... But you are right about the staffing. The staff resolution will take place at the time each activity becomes ready, so staffing changes will be taken into account.
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MaheshPN
PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2003 1:00 pm    Post subject: when will the FDL changes imported into run time take efect Reply with quote

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Hi jhon,
I was just trying to say "Valid From Date" of the template.
IF I change the role property in the new template with post date and import in to runtime, I belive it will still affects the users belongs to current process intance. Is that right john?

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2003 1:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Mahesh,
Basically you are updating your Role definition there. so no matter what date your PT has it will effect every PI, If you imported the new role into runtime.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2004 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Which document has info about this?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2004 5:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I would guess that it would be "Getting started with Buildtime", or maybe "Concepts and Architecture"
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