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| Michael Dag |
 Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2004 11:10 am Post subject: anyone here heard of Itemfield? |
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Jedi Knight
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Last night I found something interesting, it's a company called ItemField
before I go "requesting info from them" I thought I'd ask around here if anyone heard of them...
Let me know...
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| kirani |
| Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2004 2:33 pm Post subject: |
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moving to "General Discussion" forum 
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| Michael Dag |
| Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2004 1:34 pm Post subject: |
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Jedi Knight
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Thanks for the "bump" 
I deliberatly posted to the WMQI forum as I thought it would attract the most appropriate audience.
So I would like to share my hunting experience sofar, I found the website at www.itemfield.com (duh...)
and found this product called ContentMaster. Apparently it is some transformation engine that is 'technology'
independent. Meaning it can be hooked into BizTalk Server, WBIMB, Software AG's Tamino XML Server and WebMethods.
That in itself I found rather impressive. So what else triggered my attention...
Apparently they have a design-time environment that can work in a "design from sample" or "design from specification" mode.
I don't know how you work, but usually I get a 'sample' or 'samples' of data, look at it, try to understand it, start 'marking' stuff on paper and try
to work my way through...
This tool allows you to do exactly the same, but then with the help of the tool. Load up a sample and start 'marking' data to help to tool 'understand' the format...
Try and compare THAT to something friendly as the MRM (NOT!)
Other than the 'usual' suspects of data formats like XML, SWIFT, EDIFACT, HL7, etc... they also talk about 'interpreting' PDF's, Excel sheets, Word documents and even PowerPoint !?!
Does this sound to good to be true? maybe, but I am sure going to find out!!!
I received a phone call within 24 hrs after registering at their site, and was promised and evaluation version to give it a try.
I will report back here my findings, so until the next post on this topic...
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| cicsos2 |
| Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2004 3:32 am Post subject: Itemfield |
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I have seen their demo where a PDF document is used for input with their WBIMB Custom Node. Quite impressive.
They will be at the Transaction and Messaging Conference in June.
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| jefflowrey |
| Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2004 6:14 am Post subject: Re: Itemfield |
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| cicsos2 wrote: |
| I have seen their demo where a PDF document is used for input with their WBIMB Custom Node. Quite impressive. |
Yes, and no.
PDF is really just marked up text... The only "funky" stuff that you'll see is image data usually. Unless the document has been encrypted or locked in some way (which Acrobat provides facilities for).
Anyone with lots of free time could probably create an MRM model to process PDF files. It'd have to be TDS, but it should be doable.
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| Lisa |
| Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2004 6:24 am Post subject: Item |
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All,
Have you tried using SWIFT message formats?
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| Michael Dag |
| Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2004 6:32 am Post subject: @Lisa |
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| Lisa |
| Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2004 7:29 am Post subject: Item |
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Can you define and or parse SWIFT message types using this product?
Does it have a SWIFT message library that's compatible with WMQI?
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| Michael Dag |
| Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2004 7:40 am Post subject: |
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from the documentation it does, I have not tried yet, but will let you know.
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| kirani |
| Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2004 11:25 pm Post subject: |
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From their website ...
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The product is provided as a re-entrant shared library (DLL) that can be called to parse any data source to and from XML.
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Michael,
Pls let us know what you find about this?
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| Michael Dag |
| Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2004 12:39 am Post subject: |
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I'll see if I can find some time this weekend  and report here on my findings.
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| Michael Dag |
| Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2004 1:00 pm Post subject: |
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a little report as I didn't find enough time 
ContentMaster comes with a runtime and a visual studio. I played a little with the visual studio.
Basically you create a message structure in a DTD or XSD (editor comes with Visual Studio), this is your logical structure for all messages,
but can also be used as direct input or output if that is supposed to be XML...
(but that is not what you would use ContentMaster for as that can be done using native WMQI functionality)
The fun starts when you have a non-XML format, like cobol or tagged data like EDIFACT or SWIFT... (yes this can be done using NEON Formats and Rules...)
So what's different?
Well like I described, I most of the time work from sample messages see my earlier posts in this topic...
ContentMaster does that too! You load up a sample message point to the part you want to use and create a 'marker' or a 'content' reference.
This 'marker' or 'content' reference can than be mapped to elements of your logical XML stucture.
a 'marker' is used to navigate through a message to find the point where the data starts, a 'content' marker marks the data you are looking for.
This information can then be linked to the logical structure of the message to take care of repeating stuff etc...
I still have to find some more time to get used to the tool and played with it for an hour or 2 and to me it looked very promising.
I hope this information was interesting enough, contact ItemField yourself if you want to find out more yourself.
When I have more time I'll look into it more detailed.
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