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Michael Dag
PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2003 8:47 am    Post subject: MQSI 2.1 Control Center and WBI E/M B Toolkit V5 coexistence Reply with quote

Jedi Knight

Joined: 13 Jun 2002
Posts: 2607
Location: The Netherlands (Amsterdam)

As a late IBM christmas present:

Quote:
It is possible to install just the version 5 tooling on a machine that
already has a previous version installed. You need to use the setup.exe
in the tooling subdirectory, not the one on root of the CD, using the
attached response file.

If you save the response file in the "C:\temp" directory, the command
would be as follows:

setup -options "C:\temp\toolkit.txt"

The same file will work with GA and CSD installs. (N.b. To get at the
tooling subdirectory in a CSD you will first need to manually extract
the files from Uxxxxxx.exe, using WinZip for example.)

And finally, there is a dependency error problem in CSD2 which only
appears when running the tooling install in this way. The response file
includes a work around that makes it possible to carry on past the
dependency error message, using the next button and selecting ok when
prompted. (This will be fixed in the next CSD.)

Regards, James


toolkit.txt
Code:

################################################################################
#
# InstallShield Options File
#
# Wizard name: Setup
# Wizard source: setup.jar
# Created on: Tue Dec 09 15:29:29 GMT 2003
# Created by: InstallShield Options File Generator
#
# This file contains values that were specified during a recent execution of
# Setup. It can be used to configure Setup with the options specified below when
# the wizard is run with the "-options" command line option. Read each setting's
# documentation for information on how to change its value.
#
# A common use of an options file is to run the wizard in silent mode. This lets
# the options file author specify wizard settings without having to run the
# wizard in graphical or console mode. To use this options file for silent mode
# execution, use the following command line arguments when running the wizard:
#
#    -options "C:\temp\toolkit.txt" -silent
#
################################################################################


################################################################################
#
# These options are required when installing Message Brokers Toolkit on a
# computer which still has the MQSI v2.1 Control Centre installed.
#

# Disable the previous product check
-W previousProductCheckSequence.active=false

# Allow alternative install location to be specified
-W filePathSequence.active=false

# Work round for CSD2 problem
-W check.onFailure=3

# Disable registry updates. The updates clash with critical v2.1 registry
# entries, however they are not necessary for operation of the v5 toolkit
-P toolingRegistryUpdate.active=false


################################################################################
#
# IBM Message Brokers Toolkit for WebSphere Studio Install Location
#
# The install location of the product. Specify a valid directory into which the
# product should be installed. If the directory contains spaces, enclose it in
# double-quotes. For example, to install the product to C:\Program Files\My
# Product, use
#
#    -P installLocation="C:\Program Files\My Product"
#
# N.b. for coexistence with the version 2.1 Control Centre, make sure this
# location is different to the version 2.1 product install location, however
# it must be kept the same for any subsequent CSD installs of the
# version 5 toolkit.

-P installLocation="C:\Program Files\IBM\WBIMB Toolkit"


Michael
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Testo
PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2003 10:22 am    Post subject: Another 'dirty' trick... Reply with quote

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Joined: 26 Feb 2003
Posts: 120
Location: Italy - Milan

If you search in this forum, there is another way of doing that.

http://www.mqseries.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=11059&highlight=

and then

http://www.mqseries.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=9885&highlight=wbimb

You install WBIMB and then fisically COPY the WMQI directory from another machine where the CC is installed.

It works on my machine.

Cheers,
Andrea Tedone

PS Merry Christmas! ;o)
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Michael Dag
PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2003 6:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jedi Knight

Joined: 13 Jun 2002
Posts: 2607
Location: The Netherlands (Amsterdam)

Testo,
I was aware of those posts and knew some people had done some experimenting and obviously succeeded.

This however comes from IBM, which takes the co-existence out of the 'experimental' config area.
(aka DO try this at home and not on your real boxes... )

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jfluitsm
PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 6:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Disciple

Joined: 24 Feb 2002
Posts: 160
Location: The Netherlands

Installing the Toolkit in this way works ok.
I am only missing the mqsimigrate programs.
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Michael Dag
PostPosted: Sun Feb 01, 2004 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jedi Knight

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OK, so I am pushing the limit a little and have CC 2.1 installed and WBI V5 Toolking on one machine, which works great!

My brokers are on different machines (actually VMWare instances )
but now needed to test some stuff on WMQI 2.1 CSD6 and my install was on CSD4 level...

Broker upgrade was on a seperate machine so no problem and went fine...
CC 2.1 CSD4 to CSD6 upgrade cancelled out on me as my machine was on level 5.1 reported according to the registry...

So did some digging and though I'd share my upgrade...

Go into regedit and follow the 'levels' below, change your directory names and not mine

Code:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE
  SOFWARE
    IBM
      WebSphereMQIntegrator
        2
          Filepath                    REG_SZ     C:/WBIMBV5     new C:/WMQIV2
          Workpath                    REG_SZ     C:/WBIMBV5     new C:/WMQIV2
        Components
        CurrentVersion
          MQSeriesIntegratorRelease   REG_SZ     0.1            new 1.0
          MQSeriesIntegratorVersion   REG_SZ     5              new 2

After that the CSD6 install went very smooth...

Note: Don't forget to set the registry settings back after the install of CSD 6

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kirani
PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jedi Knight

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Location: Torrance, CA, USA

Very helpful info Michael! I even installed the the V5 CSD5 using these instructions!
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thebeach
PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 1:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I've installed the v5 toolkit as written above(2.1 installed already), but on first connection to the CFG MGR, I get a licensing issue saying certain features will be disabled(I've done the mqsisetcap on the cfg mgr).
The error does not appear on subsequent connections to the broker - making it difficult to nail down the issue.

I noticed that there is no config subdirectory or product.lic file therein however- is that why?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 3:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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thebeach wrote:
I've installed the v5 toolkit as written above(2.1 installed already), but on first connection to the CFG MGR, I get a licensing issue saying certain features will be disabled(I've done the mqsisetcap on the cfg mgr).
The error does not appear on subsequent connections to the broker - making it difficult to nail down the issue.

I noticed that there is no config subdirectory or product.lic file therein however- is that why?


Likely.

Did you install just a CSD, or did you do a base install first and then add the latest CSD?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 11:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I installed v5csd5 straight off(WBIMB*U200232.exe package), is a base installed then CSD5 required?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 1:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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YES
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thebeach
PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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That fixed it, thanks!
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2005 4:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hi,

I have try to reinstall the Toolkit on a maschine where WMQI 2.1 CC is installed with the parameter defined here in the toolkit.txt file but it does not work . When the setup is started it say that a"aprevious version of the product is already installed...." . What can I do ?

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 2:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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On a related note, the recently announced Message Broker v6 will coexist with previous versions on the same machine.
This includes the ability to have multiple, named Configuration Managers on the same machine.
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