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leongor
PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2003 9:26 am    Post subject: Group worklist with roles Reply with quote

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I'm wondering if someone implemented group worklist with roles.
Usually user assignment can be done by organization and role.
When using group worklist there is a dummy user representing organization
and all relevant users have authority to see his workitems.
How then role can be involved ?
The only idea I can think for now it's creating dummy user for each role/organization combination.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2003 10:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Leongor:

I have generally left Organization out of the picture when doing a Virtual user scenario.

This is generally how it is done... You have a role say "Clerk" with Users U1 and U2 in that role.

You would define a user "Clerk" also in the role, then allow U1 and U2 to have access to the workitems of "Clerk".

Now, if you really need to use organization, I belive that you could do so by using a role instead. Let me know if this is what you want to do, and I will think about it some more.
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leongor
PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2003 11:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Thanks for the answer.
Yes we really need organization. For example :
User is a CLERK and also need to be in TEAM1 to see workitem.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2003 5:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jedi Knight

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Consider making TEAM1 a role instead of an Organization. This may work for you as long as you do not need to depend on the Organization Hierarchy or Manager for anything.

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leongor
PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2003 7:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'm not sure how it can help.
Here a sample :
Users A,B in TEAM1
User A in CLERK
User B in APPROVER
Activity Act1 should be seen only by TEAM1/CLERK
Activity Act2 should be seen only by TEAM1/APPROVER

How can it be done using group worklist ?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2003 8:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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After giving this a little more thought I can see that it might not be possible, unfortunately I don't have the time to try to map it out... but I think that it may be possible by having virtual users set up as follows:

Role Team1
Role Clerk
Role Team2
Role Approver

Activity 1 is assigned to members of Team1 and Clerk
Activity 2 is assigned to members of Team1 and Approver

You would need Virtual Users TEAM1CLERK, TEAM1APPROVER,TEAM2CLERK,TEAM2APPROVER.

Like I said, I am not certain that this will work, and it would most certainly be a pain to maintain the staff relationships as far as who is authorized to whom. Let me know if you try this.

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leongor
PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2003 4:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Another way is to filter at the worklist level.
The only place where role can be put then it's a description.
Not so great ...
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