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shashivarungupta
PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 12:13 pm Post subject: SOAPInput and SOAPRequest - Message Length Limit ? Reply with quote

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Hi,

This is to find out what's the Message Length restrictions (Max message size) when we use SOAPInput and SOAPRequest nodes ?

Are these nodes still use MQ Queue underneath the platform, if Broker is configured with MQ?

Product: IIBv10
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 6:44 pm Post subject: Re: SOAPInput and SOAPRequest - Message Length Limit ? Reply with quote

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shashivarungupta wrote:
Hi,

This is to find out what's the Message Length restrictions (Max message size) when we use SOAPInput and SOAPRequest nodes ?

Are these nodes still use MQ Queue underneath the platform, if Broker is configured with MQ?

Product: IIBv10
MQ:v7.5

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It depends if you set your soap nodes to use the embedded listener or not.
If not they use the broker wide listener and this means the MQ limit is in place as the messages transits through MQ...

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 4:06 pm Post subject: Re: SOAPInput and SOAPRequest - Message Length Limit ? Reply with quote

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shashivarungupta wrote:
Hi,

This is to find out what's the Message Length restrictions (Max message size) when we use SOAPInput and SOAPRequest nodes ?

Are these nodes still use MQ Queue underneath the platform, if Broker is configured with MQ?

Product: IIBv10
MQ:v7.5

::

Thank You.

It depends if you set your soap nodes to use the embedded listener or not.
If not they use the broker wide listener and this means the MQ limit is in place as the messages transits through MQ...

Have fun


Yes, we are using embedded listener for soap and http nodes.
Having said that, did that signify that it wont matter in terms of the size of incoming or outgoing message i.e. no message size limit ( no max message length) ?

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It means that if the nodes complain about payload size, you're using the wrong protocol.

You probably still can't pass a 2 gb file as an attachment. But you shouldn't send a 2 gb file as an attachment to a web call.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:07 am Post subject: Reply with quote

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Vitor wrote:
It means that if the nodes complain about payload size, you're using the wrong protocol.

Or protocol is right but message is outside the Supported limit of the size of that message.
And the original question was to find out the Supported limit of size of message for SOAP nodes.

Vitor wrote:
You probably still can't pass a 2 gb file as an attachment. But you shouldn't send a 2 gb file as an attachment to a web call.

Yes, I agree, that the processing of a file or a message (within certain limit of size), should be taken care way before it's implementation i.e. during solution.
It's to clarify here that original question wasn't about SOAP with Attachment, though it was to figure out the limit of size of (SOAP) message (not via File) that the SOAPInput or SOAPRequest can accept.


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As per my findings with IBM, "There is no limit for the Message Length for both SOAPInput and SOAPRequest." , in case you're using Embedded Listener for SOAP nodes. But still IBM have requested if any issues they will seek traces/logs to figure out the issues with message length.
Hope this help the community here.

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shashivarungupta wrote:
As per my findings with IBM, "There is no limit for the Message Length for both SOAPInput and SOAPRequest." , in case you're using Embedded Listener for SOAP nodes. But still IBM have requested if any issues they will seek traces/logs to figure out the issues with message length.
Hope this help the community here.


What I was getting at is there's probably no documented limit but there may be an implementation specific technical one. However, a message long enough to hit any limit shouldn't be sent over soap
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Vitor wrote:

..there's probably no documented limit but there may be an implementation specific technical one..


if there is 'technical one' then that shouldn't it be 'documented limit'? Cause in most cases, that's what happen, isn't it?
Or you meant to say, 'documented limit' is not the 'technical one' and they differ?
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No, I mean there's a technical limit which hasn't come up in any of IBM's test cases and thus isn't documented. This isn't a common thing.

I'm sure your experience will aid and improve the documents
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