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MainframeMatt1978

Posted: Wed May 02, 2018 12:06 pm Post subject: Active logs out of order

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Hello,

I am trying to figure out the least disruptive process of fixing the order of my active logs for a running Queue Manager. I am running on z/OS 2.1 and MQ v8 in NEW FUNC mode. I have 8 byte RBA's and this QM is DEV/TEST. As you can see here, somehow the order got out of sequence:

Qmgr Copy Status Used Dataset-Name
QM1A 1 CURRENT 43% WEBMQ.QM1AMSTR.LOGCOPY1.DS01
. . REUSABLE WEBMQ.QM1AMSTR.LOGCOPY1.DS04
. . REUSABLE WEBMQ.QM1AMSTR.LOGCOPY1.DS05
. . REUSABLE WEBMQ.QM1AMSTR.LOGCOPY1.DS06
. . REUSABLE WEBMQ.QM1AMSTR.LOGCOPY1.DS02
. . REUSABLE WEBMQ.QM1AMSTR.LOGCOPY1.DS08
. . REUSABLE WEBMQ.QM1AMSTR.LOGCOPY1.DS07
. . REUSABLE WEBMQ.QM1AMSTR.LOGCOPY1.DS03

I understand this is just a naming issue of the last qualifier, but I would like to fix this. Any suggestions? Thanks.

bruce2359

Posted: Wed May 02, 2018 3:33 pm Post subject: Re: Active logs out of order

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MainframeMatt1978 wrote:

Where are you seeing this output?

Are you seeing errors with CSQ prefix?

Other than looking out of alphabetic sequence, what other symptoms are you seeing?

Why does this need to be fixed?
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bruce2359

Posted: Wed May 02, 2018 3:35 pm Post subject:

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Moved to Mainframe forum.
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MainframeMatt1978

Posted: Tue May 08, 2018 6:52 am Post subject:

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This output is from the MQLOGS command in CA-SYSVIEW.
No errors with the prefix. Like I said, the Queue manager is operating normally, the logs are flipping fine. The 4th qualifier in the DSN of the active logs is "DSNN" where NN is the number. We ran CSQJU003 against the BSDS to add the NEWLOGS in sequential order, i.e DS01, DS02, DS03.....

So not sure how we are going from DS06 > DS02 > DS08 > DS07.....as you can see in the output of the MQLOGS command.

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bruce2359

Posted: Tue May 08, 2018 6:57 am Post subject:

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MainframeMatt1978 wrote:

This output is from the MQLOGS command in CA-SYSVIEW.
No errors with the prefix. Like I said, the Queue manager is operating normally, the logs are flipping fine. The 4th qualifier in the DSN of the active logs is "DSNN" where NN is the number. We ran CSQJU003 against the BSDS to and the NEWLOGS in sequential order, i.e DS01, DS02, DS03.....

So not sure how we are going from DS06 > DS02 > DS08 > DS07.....as you can see in the output of the MQLOGS command.

So, if you run the IBM-supplied utility all looks good; but the CA-supplied utility shows different results. Hmmm. Perhaps you should contact the CA product support folks.
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MainframeMatt1978

Posted: Tue May 08, 2018 7:32 am Post subject:

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So I ran the Print log utility against the BSDS and yes it showed the log datasets in the order of the CA-SYSVIEW output command. So on my test lpar I just shut the QM down, ran a change log inventory against the BSDS and deleted all logs except DS01 (which I forced it to be on before I took the QM down) and then added the logs back in correct order. The QM started up normally. All fixed.

bruce2359

Posted: Tue May 08, 2018 7:49 am Post subject:

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MainframeMatt1978 wrote:

.. then added the logs back in correct order. The QM started up normally. All fixed.

Did it start abnormally before your log inventor changes? Or, is the out-of-sequence display the only symptom?
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MainframeMatt1978

Posted: Tue May 08, 2018 8:05 am Post subject:

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The out-of-sequence display was the only symptom. I looked back through the last few job logs of the queue manager going back over a year and this has been like this for a long time. No one every noticed it until now. So it was only a monitoring fix for our sanity. Thanks for everyone's help.

bruce2359

Posted: Tue May 08, 2018 8:40 am Post subject:

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MQ for z/OS opens datasets by their dataset name. The RBA determines which log dataset to open. While Iâ€™ve not seen this symptom, I doubt it would affect restart recovery.
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