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rcp_mq
PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2015 1:09 am    Post subject: Queue manager ends unexpetedly. Reply with quote

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I have an issue.

When I start a queue manager with STRQMQ and log off, the queue manager 'ends unexpectedly'. This does not happen when the queue manager is started from MQ explorer.
Another strange issue is that the AMQERR01.LOG file does not show any error messages regarding this. There are no FDCs either.

Windows 2003
MQ v6 (I know it's old but I'm curious about this behavior)

Has anyone experienced this issue?
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stuartjohnston1967
PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2015 3:26 am    Post subject: Windows Reply with quote

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If you have started it manually and logoff then it will stop

You need to stop/start the queue manager as a service

See the install guides
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rcp_mq
PostPosted: Sun Feb 01, 2015 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Thanks. I know that is an available option in v7.x but not in v6.x.
For which I needed to go into the properties of the queue manager and change start up from Manual to Automatic.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2015 5:57 am    Post subject: Re: Queue manager ends unexpetedly. Reply with quote

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rcp_mq wrote:
I have an issue.

When I start a queue manager with STRQMQ and log off, the queue manager 'ends unexpectedly'. This does not happen when the queue manager is started from MQ explorer.
Another strange issue is that the AMQERR01.LOG file does not show any error messages regarding this. There are no FDCs either.

Windows 2003
MQ v6 (I know it's old but I'm curious about this behavior)

Has anyone experienced this issue?

Have you looked at the parameters you can pass to the crtmqm command?
You may have to use one of those...
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bruce2359
PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2015 6:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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This isn't really an MQ issue; rather it's an IPL issue. Go to google. Search for Add Commands to iSeries Startup Program.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2015 6:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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bruce2359 wrote:
This isn't really an MQ issue; rather it's an IPL issue. Go to google. Search for Add Commands to iSeries Startup Program.

Are you answering a different post?
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It's puzzling, I don't think I've ever seen anything quite like this before...and it's hard to soar like an eagle when you're surrounded by turkeys.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2015 6:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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exerk wrote:
bruce2359 wrote:
This isn't really an MQ issue; rather it's an IPL issue. Go to google. Search for Add Commands to iSeries Startup Program.

Are you answering a different post?


rcp_mq mentioned STRQMQ, which is ISeries.

rcp_mq also said it was on windows, using MQ v6, which would use STRMQM.

So it's only a little confusing.

Altering the properties of the MQ service is a reasonable thing to do to start a queue manager as a service, rather than running strmqm from a login shell. but there's also amqoamd or sommat... I've forgotten.
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bruce2359
PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2015 6:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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exerk wrote:
bruce2359 wrote:
This isn't really an MQ issue; rather it's an IPL issue. Go to google. Search for Add Commands to iSeries Startup Program.

Are you answering a different post?

I read the OP as an iSeries issue, along with a new-to-MQ sysadmin issue.

Starting a qmgr with automation is not new, and is available on all platforms, and all versions of MQ.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 12:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Sorry for the typo, I meant STRMQM (which is common for all platforms AFAIK)
amqmdain qmgr start is the same as STRMQM -ss in v7. I couldn't find such an option with STRMQM for v6.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 5:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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rcp_mq wrote:
Sorry for the typo, I meant STRMQM (which is common for all platforms AFAIK)
amqmdain qmgr start is the same as STRMQM -ss in v7. I couldn't find such an option with STRMQM for v6.

The well-documented control command is strmqm, not STRMQM. http://www-01.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSFKSJ_7.5.0/com.ibm.mq.ref.adm.doc/q083650_.htm
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 2:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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bruce2359 wrote:
rcp_mq wrote:
Sorry for the typo, I meant STRMQM (which is common for all platforms AFAIK)
amqmdain qmgr start is the same as STRMQM -ss in v7. I couldn't find such an option with STRMQM for v6.

The well-documented control command is strmqm, not STRMQM. http://www-01.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSFKSJ_7.5.0/com.ibm.mq.ref.adm.doc/q083650_.htm

On UNIX and Windows, the commands are lower case, although Windows also accepts mixed case. "dSpMqVer" anyone? iSeries AS400 likes upper case.
From the OP, I thought it was pretty clear they were discussing Windows. Why they are still using MQ v6 is anyone's guess.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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We use MQ 5.3(!) to MQ 8 on every supported platform...why 5.3, it's what the client's MQ expert wants, period.
Now telemetry is supported for mobile transactions. What remains is cloud and OO runmqsc scripting!
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 1:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Anyone who still wants to use MQ 5.3 is not an expert - but then I am sure you know that.
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Well, I don't think there is any question about it. It can only be attributable to human error. This sort of thing has cropped up before, and it has always been due to human error.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 5:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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zpat wrote:
Anyone who still wants to use MQ 5.3 is not an expert - but then I am sure you know that.



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 5:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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zpat wrote:
Anyone who still wants to use MQ 5.3 is not an expert - but then I am sure you know that.

I suspect that the self-described "expert" is an expert only on 5.3.
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