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pratuluv
PostPosted: Wed Dec 25, 2013 11:30 pm    Post subject: Migration from WMB v8 to IB v9.0 Reply with quote

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Hi,

We are currently working on WMB v8. We have around 100 main flows that in turn calls around 500 subflows running on v8.0, mostly on MQ protocol.

If I want to migrate to version 9, how feasible would that be at this given point. Please advice.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 26, 2013 3:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hi, my suggestion is if you really want to Migration from WMB v8 to IB v9.0 then you can get help from IBM for FREE!!!

Please go through the below link.

https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/community/blogs/aimsupport/entry/making_message_broker_migration_more_manageable?lang=en
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kimbert
PostPosted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 9:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Migrating from WMB v8 to IIB v9 is pretty much the same as migrating from WMB v7 to WMB v8. Is there any particular reason why you thought it would be a problem?
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emiddleware
PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2014 3:32 am    Post subject: IIB migration v9 Reply with quote

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Hi
I want to do cross platform migration. The MQ version is 7.0 and MB artifacts are in v 6.1 in Unix platform.

I have downloaded IIB v9 and MQ 7.5 trial version in Windows ..

Is there any document for cross-platform migration ?

I was thinking of connecting to Unix via Win scp and getting the components and importing it into my IIB v9
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2014 3:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'm currently runnnig a test VM where ALL the flows etc that are deployed
were built on 7.0.0.4. By that I mean that the .bar files were created using a V7.0.0.4 tooklit.

The Test VM is running IBM MQ 8.0.0.1 and IIB 9.0.0.2

Ok, so this is all on (boo hiss) Windows but there really wasn't a big problem with the migration once I'd sorted out a get little gotchas (as documented here - sigh)

All the scripts that were used for the V7 build only required a few tweaks for the V9 build. These were mainly to do with the making it all work nicely in an MSCS environment.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Simbu wrote:
Hi, my suggestion is if you really want to Migration from WMB v8 to IB v9.0 then you can get help from IBM for FREE!!!

Please go through the below link.

https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/community/blogs/aimsupport/entry/making_message_broker_migration_more_manageable?lang=en



Hi Simbu,

The above link is not opening . Can u share anyother document . I want to migrate artifacts from MB v6 (unix) to IIB v9 (Windows) and MB v6 (unix) to IIB v9 (Unix).
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JosephGramig
PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Well, you cannot migrate "artifacts" from one broker to another (especially on a different platform). You will need to redeploy them. You will probably need to migrate the source code from Toolkit 6.0.?.? to 7.0.0.7 and then to 9.0.0.2.

For your UNIX broker, are you looking to upgrade the software on the same UNIX box for the upgrade or is this to another box?

I would suggest going to a new box as a "Co-exist" migration just to be sure the new environment is clean.

I'm sure you've read the KC all about migrating from 6.0 to 7.0 and 7.0 to 9.0...
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emiddleware
PostPosted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 3:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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[quote="JosephGramig"]Well, you cannot migrate "artifacts" from one broker to another (especially on a different platform). You will need to redeploy them. You will probably need to migrate the source code from Toolkit 6.0.?.? to 7.0.0.7 and then to 9.0.0.2.

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For your UNIX broker, are you looking to upgrade the software on the same UNIX box for the upgrade or is this to another box?

I would suggest going to a new box as a "Co-exist" migration just to be sure the new environment is clean.

I'm sure you've read the KC all about migrating from 6.0 to 7.0 and 7.0 to 9.0...



Hi Joseph,
Yes I want to import the artifacts to my local environment in Windows . The current message flows are running in Unix. I tried importing the flows .. The only issue is that IIB v9 is not recognizing the subflows .
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 3:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The current message flows are running in Unix. I tried importing the flows
Did you take the BAR files that were deployed to the Unix machine and redeploy them on the Windows machine?
If not, then what exactly did you do?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 12:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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kimbert wrote:
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The current message flows are running in Unix. I tried importing the flows
Did you take the BAR files that were deployed to the Unix machine and redeploy them on the Windows machine?
If not, then what exactly did you do?


Hi Kimbert,
I took the project files from svn repository and saved in my local system in windows.
The project files contain message flows , subflows, common flows and message set that were developed in v6.1 and are currently deployed in unix environment.

I have installed IIB v9 and MQ v7.5 in my Windows system. I created a new project and imported the artifacts into the new project in the workspace.
I could have re-deployed the flows in my current EG in Windows . But I see many errors. One of the error is that its not recognizing the subflows .. It says unable to "locate the input terminal of subflow ".

I created a separate project for subflows and tried giving this as a reference to the main message flow project. I rebuild the workspace. But still I see red cross marks.

I am not interested to re-deploy the bar file . I just want to import the flows manually and re-build them in my workspace and deploy the flow in my EG.
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emiddleware
PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 3:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hi !!

I managed to remove the errors related to subflows .

I am getting two main errors.
Circular project dependency and
Flow with duplicate name found in referenced project.

For Circular project dependency I checked http://www.mqseries.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=245926/.
I first checked my jvm strength.. So I ran the following command and the result too.
Before executing the command I first wanted to check the properties first.
C:\Program Files\IBM\MQSI\9.0.0.2>mqsireportproperties IB9NODE -b agent -o ComIb
mJVMManager -r

ComIbmJVMManager
uuid='ComIbmJVMManager'
jvmVerboseOption='none'
jvmDisableClassGC='false'
jvmEnableIncGC='false'
jvmNativeStackSize='-1'
jvmMinHeapSize='16777216'
jvmMaxHeapSize='393216000'
jvmDebugPort='0'

As I am convinced that there is enough memory allocated to JVM , I did not alter anything.

I don't understand the duplicate name... I have done the project references ... I have not created any project name with duplicate name .. Why am I getting this ?


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 5:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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emiddleware wrote:

I don't understand the duplicate name... I have done the project references ... I have not created any project name with duplicate name .. Why am I getting this ?


K

You are getting this because you have a duplicate flow name that is not in a different broker schema.
Say you have flow name abc in default schema in lib A and flow name abc in default schema in lib B. Now if applicaton app1 references both lib A and lib B you have a flow naming conflict...
So your problem might still be related to your circular reference problem...
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