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vinumon
PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 4:30 am    Post subject: amqrmppa, amqzla0 process utilising high CPU Reply with quote

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The essential MQ process utilising more CPU, under heavy loads, once Synquest( MirrorQ) replication enabled.

Kindly let me know if any config needs to be done at Qmanager level.

Platform is AIX
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 6:44 am    Post subject: Re: amqrmppa, amqzla0 process utilising high CPU Reply with quote

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vinumon wrote:
The essential MQ process utilising more CPU, under heavy loads, once Synquest( MirrorQ) replication enabled.

Kindly let me know if any config needs to be done at Qmanager level.

Platform is AIX

What essential MQ process? How much more CPU? What version of MQ?
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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CPU utilisation reaches 100 % . MQ process are amqrmppa, amqzlaa0..
MQ version is 7.5.
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vinumon wrote:
CPU utilisation reaches 100 % . MQ process are amqrmppa, amqzlaa0..
MQ version is 7.5.

7.5.?.?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 5:46 am    Post subject: Re: amqrmppa, amqzla0 process utilising high CPU Reply with quote

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vinumon wrote:
The essential MQ process utilising more CPU, under heavy loads, once Synquest( MirrorQ) replication enabled.

Kindly let me know if any config needs to be done at Qmanager level.

Platform is AIX


Have you asked the vendors for advice?

Is this when the exit is enabled, or once traffic starts to flow?
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amqrmppa is the channel process. amqzlaa0 is the agent process. You would expect these processes to consume large amounts of CPU if you were doing lots of channel messaging and just lots of messaging respectively.

So, high CPU in itself is not a problem. The question is whether you are consuming more CPU than is reasonable. If you are moving 20,000 mesages a second then 100% CPU may be entirely reasonable. If you are moving 20 messages a second then clearly it isn't.

If all was well without Syncquest MirrorQ and it all went pear shaped when you enabled it then, as has been mentioned before, it seems the first thing to do would be to contact the owners of the MirrorQ application and ask for their advice.

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Ha! Sorry...a phrase that is used by us Brits.

From Wikipedia:

"The third meaning is mostly limited to the United Kingdom, Ireland and Australasia. It describes a situation that went awry, perhaps horribly wrong....."

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PaulClarke wrote:
Ha! Sorry...a phrase that is used by us Brits.

From Wikipedia:

"The third meaning is mostly limited to the United Kingdom, Ireland and Australasia. It describes a situation that went awry, perhaps horribly wrong....."

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Hey, I knew what you meant.
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PaulClarke wrote:
Ha! Sorry...a phrase that is used by us Brits.

From Wikipedia:

"The third meaning is mostly limited to the United Kingdom, Ireland and Australasia. It describes a situation that went awry, perhaps horribly wrong....."

Cheers,
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Also, what was the CPU before you enabled Synquest? Nothing is free, there is a CPU cost associated with all processes, and its reasonable to expect Synquest needs some CPU cycles to do its job.

If you were at 98% CPU before the change....
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 4:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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CPU utilization was just 15 % even before and after Synquest is enabled.

But once there is load, CPU goes to 100 %.
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vinumon wrote:
CPU utilization was just 15 % even before and after Synquest is enabled.

But once there is load, CPU goes to 100 %.


What is the CPU when there is load when its not enabled?
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It seems most likely to me that something is mis-configured. I don't know what MirrorQ does but it sounds like a product which will take a copy of one queue to another. Well, a classic mistake in this kind of thing is to somehow manage to copy a queue to itself. What you then get is a busy loop, with each message just going round and round. That would certainly drive the CPU towards 100%. I still think you would be best talking to Synquest and have them check your parameters.

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