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WBIMaestro
PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 5:14 am    Post subject: some BIP exception codes dont have text associated with them Reply with quote

Acolyte

Joined: 18 Feb 2005
Posts: 53

Hi,

While testing one of our message flows, noticed that some of the Exceptions dont have a text message associated with them. for e.g BIP 3314 shows up in the trace without text. if i insert these into a db, it shows up as just a BIP code without any text. other exceptions, like XML parsing errors, do seem to have text associated with them. To illustrate :
Quote:

(0x03000000:NameValue):Label =
'TS_BATCH_COMMON_FLOW.File Output' (CHARACTER)
(0x03000000:NameValue):Catalog = 'BIPmsgs'
(CHARACTER)
(0x03000000:NameValue):Severity = 3 (INTEGER)
(0x03000000:NameValue):Number = 2230 (INTEGER)
(0x03000000:NameValue):Text = 'Caught
exception and rethrowing' (CHARACTER)
(0x01000000:Name ):RecoverableException = (
(0x03000000:NameValue):File = 'AbstractFileOutputNode.
java' (CHARACTER)
(0x03000000:NameValue):Line = 686 (INTEGER)
(0x03000000:NameValue):Function = 'locateOutputFile'
(CHARACTER)
(0x03000000:NameValue):Type = '' (CHARACTER)
(0x03000000:NameValue):Name = '' (CHARACTER)
(0x03000000:NameValue):Label = '' (CHARACTER)
(0x03000000:NameValue):Catalog = 'BIPmsgs' (CHARACTER)
(0x03000000:NameValue):Severity = 0 (INTEGER)
(0x03000000:NameValue):Number = 3314 (INTEGER)
(0x03000000:NameValue):Text = '' (CHARACTER)
(0x01000000:Name ):Insert = (
(0x03000000:NameValue):Type = 5 (INTEGER)
(0x03000000:NameValue):Text = 'File Output' (CHARACTER)
)
I want to know why the Text is empty for BIP 3314:
(0x03000000:NameValue):Number = 3314 (INTEGER)
(0x03000000:NameValue):Text = '' (CHARACTER)

any ideas?
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lancelotlinc
PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 6:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I saw a BIP message once that said

Code:
(0x03000000:NameValue):Text = 'Eat at Joe's' (CHARACTER)


Then I heard:

Quote:
Beep, beep! Ptchew.....


Not all exception list entries will have a text message associated with them.
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WBIMaestro
PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 6:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Acolyte

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Posts: 53

funny, that same exceptionlist even had something like :

Quote:


(0x03000000:NameValue):Text = ''Punk has a Bad Attitude(CHARACTER)



I would think thats bad design for ibm to be putting out exceptionlists without enough info while googling the same BIP code gives one accurate info in the diagnostics messages pdf.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 7:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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So that Text field is for the bip itself and not for any of the inserts in the bip.

That bip in particular has three inserts, and is extremely clear on what the issue is and the inserts are extremely clear on what each one is and should be.

So I wouldn't really expect there to be a need for any higher level explanatory text that clarified the meaning of this particular instance of the BIP (since this bip applies in exactly one case and has no set of alternate meanings or causes) so I can see the programmer who wrote the code that logs this BIP leaving out that part of the function call, and then that same lack of parameter in that position passing code review as being unnecessary.

Also this BIP is a warning so there could very well be additional messages that occur at the same time that, again, provide additional explanatory meaning with it needing to be put into flat text in the error message.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Acolyte

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yeah, if one takes the troule to correlate the inserts or looks for the BIP message explanation in the broker diagnostic messages pdf, its easy enough. just throws one off, if its an automated database insertion code thats looking for the BIP code and its text explanatio to log into a databse. probably makes more sense to just log the whole exception tree to a db then...
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 5:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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WBIMaestro wrote:
yeah, if one takes the troule to correlate the inserts or looks for the BIP message explanation in the broker diagnostic messages pdf, its easy enough. just throws one off, if its an automated database insertion code thats looking for the BIP code and its text explanatio to log into a databse. probably makes more sense to just log the whole exception tree to a db then...


The exception tree is intended to be formatted by something like the ESQL Log statement. It doesn't help a lot in this scenario, because you can't access the output of anything that does this kind of formatting of the Exception tree from within broker itself.

But yes, generally, you really need to store the entire exception list tree.

It's easier than rewriting the error formatting processes to make use of the bipmsgs file to translate the exception tree.
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AndreasMartens
PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 5:45 am    Post subject: It's there for debugging Reply with quote

Acolyte

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Location: Hursley, UK

Hi,

The first insert of an exception, the Trace Text, is there for service purposes to differentiate between different instances of the exception being thrown. Since it's hard-coded in source code, it is not translateable and hence not part of the actual error text. It can occasionally give you a pretty decent clue as to what went wrong, but for the full text you should always look it up in the manual.

Why don't we extract the full text and include it in the exceptionlist I hear you say? Because most uses of the exceptionlist are for machine-processing and don't need the text, and extracting the text would take extra time, reducing the performance of your flow.

thanks,
Andreas
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Rookwood
PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 8:39 am    Post subject: Accessing message catalog text Reply with quote

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I take the point about performance and not always providing the message catalog text in each and every instance.

However, surely there is a case for an ESQL function that will fetch the BIP text given the Catalog name and Message ID so that users writing the own ExceptionList handler code can access the proper text and substitute the insert values as and when required.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 12:13 am    Post subject: Excellent suggestion Reply with quote

Acolyte

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That my good man, is an excellent suggestion.

Could I request you formally ask us for it here:
http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/rfe/?PROD_ID=532
please?

thanks,
Andreas
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 12:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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...and not just for ESQL, btw. It would probably be useful to be able to do the same thing in Java or in a Mapping node ( although the latter could call out to the Java method if it was a static method ).
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 4:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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kimbert wrote:
...and not just for ESQL, btw. It would probably be useful to be able to do the same thing in Java or in a Mapping node ( although the latter could call out to the Java method if it was a static method ).

The Java MbException class has the getMessage() and getLocalizedMessage() methods, to return the full error, although they are not static methods.

The .NET API also has the NBException.FormattedMessage method.

The C Common API does not have an equivalent function.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 5:45 am    Post subject: Re: Excellent suggestion Reply with quote

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AndreasMartens wrote:
That my good man, is an excellent suggestion.

Could I request you formally ask us for it here:
http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/rfe/?PROD_ID=532
please?

thanks,
Andreas


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