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scravr
PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 11:32 am    Post subject: wmb8 road map Reply with quote

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can someone please point to url where can I find the roadmap for wm8 from 8001 to 8004?
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 11:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What do you mean by 'Roadmap'?
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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chart showing the release time for each v800X something like this that shows wmb8 upto v8004:
https://www-950.ibm.com/events/wwe/grp/grp004.nsf/vLookupPDFs/WebSphere%20Message%20Broker%20V8.0.0.1%20(Aug%2014)/$file/WebSphere%20Message%20Broker%20V8.0.0.1%20(Aug%2014).pdf


also if I am on v8001 and like to migrate to v8004: do I need 8002, 8003, then 8004, or I can go from 8001 directlly to 8004?
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zpat
PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Fixpacks are cumulative. Just use the latest.
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scravr
PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I need something like this on page 3 that shows the roadmap upto 8004:
https://www-950.ibm.com/events/wwe/grp/grp004.nsf/vLookupPDFs/WebSphere%20Message%20Broker%20V8.0.0.1%20(Aug%2014)/$file/WebSphere%20Message%20Broker%20V8.0.0.1%20(Aug%2014).pdf
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Ask IBM either via your Sales Rep or via a PMR.

There was a similar diagram shown last week at Hursley but that was for V8/V9 and V.Next. I would be very surprised if there were any major implementation of functionality in V8.0.0.x after 8.0.0.2. They would be IMHO bug fix releases. These would be in V9 and after.

IMHO, this move towards an annual release on major versions is a backward step. Moving a production system to a new FixPAck is a whole lot easier than to a new major version. I know of several sites that simply won't do that and will skip one or even two versions at a go unless there is a compelling business reason to upgrade.

At one site, upgrading to a fixpack means just a planned switch (of production) over to the other node, upgrade that and move back etc. A major release needs much longer downtime (despite the changes IBM have made to allow multiple versions) and can cause major disruptions to a system that needs to run 24/7/52. We get 2 hours planned downtime a twice a year.
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I have to agree.

WMB (IIB) is racing ahead of MQ on new versions (presumably to attempt to appeal to new market segments) and the operational needs of larger enterprises are not really being listened to as much as before (although IBM are still the best at that).

The lack of IBX support for V10 will mean a mixture of different admin interfaces for years to come (even though the underlying CMPAPI is still there).
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