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| srikanth.potti |
 Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 6:11 am Post subject: Queue Manager Hierarchy issues |
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Hi All,
I have an issue with Queue Manager Hierarchy, i have 3 levels of Queue Managers, StoreQM's --> Co-location QM's --> Corp QM.
35 Stores are childs to each Co-lo And
all the Co-lo are childs to Corp QM.
All the channels are up and running between each other and i have added the parent QM on the childs, but still parent Queue Manager is showing as starting state in the Publish/Subscribe status.
Can any one help me to resolve the issue. I have observed that there are no Proxy subscriptions created automatically, i am not sure why that happend and there are no errors in the logs. |
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 6:23 am Post subject: |
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What version of WMQ?
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| srikanth.potti |
| Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 6:34 am Post subject: |
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 7:26 am Post subject: |
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I assume this was migrated from an earlier version of WMQ, especially as you've posted in the Clustering forum. Have you followed the steps given here?
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| srikanth.potti |
| Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 7:36 am Post subject: |
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| Hi This is not the Migration. we have done fresh setup of all the Queue Managers. |
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| fjb_saper |
| Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 7:46 am Post subject: |
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Are all 3 levels in one happy cluster, or do you have the parent and children in one cluster ? How many clusters total? 
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 8:15 am Post subject: |
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| srikanth.potti wrote: |
| we have done fresh setup of all the Queue Managers. |
Then why are you using heirarchies and not cluster topics?
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| srikanth.potti |
| Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 9:04 am Post subject: |
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| I don't have any Cluster, its just Queue Manager Hierarchy |
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 9:25 am Post subject: |
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| srikanth.potti wrote: |
| I don't have any Cluster, its just Queue Manager Hierarchy |
I repeat my question.
Or if you prefer, why do you choose to set up a heirarchy rather than a cluster? With 35+ queue managers involved, a cluster would seem to be the logical choice
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| srikanth.potti |
| Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 10:52 am Post subject: |
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| IBM has suggested this way. so we have approached the same. |
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| srikanth.potti |
| Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 10:53 am Post subject: |
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| And also Co-locations and Corp server are the Multi Instance Queue Managers. |
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 4:42 am Post subject: |
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| srikanth.potti wrote: |
| IBM has suggested this way. so we have approached the same. |
IBM with a mighty voice corporately? A member of ISSW? A contractor who claimed IBM knowledge but doesn't actually work for them?
Why did "IBM" suggest this? What about your use case makes this better than cluster topics?
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| srikanth.potti wrote: |
| And also Co-locations and Corp server are the Multi Instance Queue Managers. |
Shouldn't make a difference
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| mqjeff |
| Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 4:54 am Post subject: |
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clustered topics are a really bad idea, in this case.
It means that all stores will send all publications to all stores, where there is a matching subscription.
I'm sure that's not what's wanted. |
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 5:46 am Post subject: |
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| mqjeff wrote: |
| It means that all stores will send all publications to all stores, where there is a matching subscription. |
Assuming the stores have a matching subscription, which is a big assumption.
And one of the things I'm trying to wheedle out of the OP.
I'm also trying to get a handle on why, with the number of queue managers described in the scenarion, the OP is not using a cluster to provide queue manager interconnectivity as a prelude to discussing his topology. The claim made earlier:
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| All the channels are up and running between each other |
is a proud boast using 35+ queue managers especially if there's interconnectivity between the intermediate layers. But is critical for the set up the OP is attempting to use.
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