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| jim |
 Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 2:42 am Post subject: How to add 1000 remote QMGR in the MQ explorer |
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How to add 1000 remote QMGR in the MQ explorer.
To reduce the manual effort. |
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| Tibor |
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| jim |
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| zpat |
| Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 5:38 am Post subject: |
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It would be great if MQ explorer (and for that matter MO71) would read the CCDT to auto-populate the QM list.
MQ explorer can use the CCDT to determine the connection details for an entry that is being added.
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| gbaddeley |
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You can use Queue Manager sets to reduce clutter of the Queue Manager navigation list in MQ Explorer.
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| jim |
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| zpat wrote: |
It would be great if MQ explorer (and for that matter MO71) would read the CCDT to auto-populate the QM list.
MQ explorer can use the CCDT to determine the connection details for an entry that is being added. |
It is also hard way as I have to create channel in the 1000 qmgrs and then ccdttable file become huge |
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| PaulClarke |
| Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 11:36 pm Post subject: |
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MO71 does have a user editable config file at least. So, you can just generate the lines you need and then add them in.
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P.
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| zpat |
| Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 12:36 am Post subject: |
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I am assuming that like most sites, you already have a CCDT file coded, with all the connection information in it. (MO72 makes CCDT maintenance easier.)
The other thing that MQ explorer (or MO71) could do is spider around the MQ network, by looking at the currently defined QMs and picking up the connection details of other QMs from the sender channels, so as to add more QMs to the MQ explorer (or MO71) list.
That would be really neat to have, and impressive to watch as the list of QMs auto-magically expanded in front of your eyes.
Perhaps something for Mark Taylor to add into MS0P.
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| fjb_saper |
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Also think about the performance impact of adding thousands of qmgrs to MQExplorer... querying every x many seconds? You might want to revise your polling interval, or avoid autoconnect!
Have fun 
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| zpat |
| Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 1:18 am Post subject: |
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Autoconnect is a pain as well.
Why do IBM do that? - I have to disable it every time on MQ explorer and MBX explorer - each time I add a new QM or broker.
Of course, thousands is an extreme case. But for more typical numbers any sort of productivity improvement in this area is welcome.
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| McueMart |
| Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 1:41 am Post subject: |
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| IBM need to revisit MQ/MB Explorer performance in general. It's pretty shocking. Whenever my computer is crawling I will invariably open up Process Explorer and see it consuming 50% cpu. |
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| PaulClarke |
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You could always try MO71. It is a far smaller, does far more and uses only a fraction of the CPU that MQ Explorer does. 
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| bruce2359 |
| Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 3:51 am Post subject: |
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| McueMart wrote: |
| IBM need to revisit MQ/MB Explorer performance in general. It's pretty shocking. Whenever my computer is crawling I will invariably open up Process Explorer and see it consuming 50% cpu. |
Eclipse-based = Java = cpu
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| zpat |
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But the WMB toolkit is also in Java and it's pretty slick.
I just think the MQ explorer and MBX need more developer attention given to them.
I avoid using MQ explorer whenever possible.
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| RogerLacroix |
| Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 12:32 pm Post subject: |
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| bruce2359 wrote: |
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No. It is bad programming in the Eclipse plugin that equals high CPU. I use Eclipse IDE (separate install) with various plugins and do C & Java develop and it is extremely fast and I never have CPU issues.
When I start MQ Explorer (outside of Eclipse IDE), I see the CPU go up and down like a YoYo.
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