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| ghoshly |
 Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2014 5:55 am Post subject: LocalEnvironment override for File nodes for FTP operation |
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Hello,
Current Broker version : 8.0.0.2
Objective is to create a generic message flow which can dynamically read files from directory and send to destination directory dynamically.
MQ Input -> Compute -> File Read -> Compute -> File Output
Through MQ input node, we can receive all configuration details to be used for override.
Issue :
We can't read directory dynamically from remote location using FileRead node. Is that is a possibility in near future?
Through a single FileOutput node, can we send message to both local and remote FTP location using Localenvironment override fields? (Remote Transfer check box, Transfer protocol etc). During deployment server and port property is getting validated with the value provided, so no dummy value is allowed there. |
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| vishnurajnr |
| Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2014 6:40 am Post subject: |
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| ghoshly wrote: |
| Through a single FileOutput node, can we send message to both local and remote FTP location using Localenvironment override fields? (Remote Transfer check box, Transfer protocol etc). During deployment server and port property is getting validated with the value provided, so no dummy value is allowed there. |
InfoCenter says:
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| To retain a local copy of the file after the file transfer process has completed, select the Retain local file after transfer check box. If this check box is selected, the local copies are processed after the transfer is complete, as are other output files, as specified on the Basic tab. If the check box is cleared, successfully transferred files are not retained locally. |
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| ghoshly |
| Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2014 6:49 am Post subject: am I clear in understanding ? |
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Probably I am not clear in asking question. To rephrase - How can I activate /override all the values present in FTP tab for Fileoutput node. I can use only the mentioned below
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SET OutputLocalEnvironment.Destination.File.Remote.Server = refEnv.ConfigurableService;
SET OutputLocalEnvironment.Destination.File.Remote.ServerDirectory = refEnv.RemoteDirectory; |
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| zpat |
| Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2014 6:55 am Post subject: |
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Set the "FTP server name" in the filenode to the name of a FTP configurable service definition.
Set the FTP configurable service definition with the values you want.
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| ghoshly |
| Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 1:24 am Post subject: Read remote location dynamically |
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Is there a way we can use / configure FileInput / File Read node to read files from remote locations dynamically?
Or for every remote location we need to use separate FileInput node. |
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| Gralgrathor |
| Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 1:33 am Post subject: Re: Read remote location dynamically |
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| ghoshly wrote: |
| Is there a way we can use / configure FileInput [...] node to read files from remote locations dynamically? |
No.
| ghoshly wrote: |
| Is there a way we can use / configure [...] FileRead node to read files from remote locations dynamically? |
Yes, locally but not remote.
| ghoshly wrote: |
| Or for every remote location we need to use separate FileInput node. |
If you've got that many download locations to inspect, then perhaps it's time to have another look at your design?
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| Esa |
| Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 2:44 am Post subject: Re: Read remote location dynamically |
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| Gralgrathor wrote: |
If you've got that many download locations to inspect, then perhaps it's time to have another look at your design? |
As someone (mqjeff perhaps) has answered to an almost similar problem, you need a managed file transfer solution.
Message Broker is not a managed file transfer solution.
Nobody (some Hursley people excluded) knows for sure why File Read node doesn't support remote locations, but perhaps one of the reasons is a strategic decision of preventing Message Broker from being used as one... |
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| Gralgrathor |
| Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 2:55 am Post subject: Re: Read remote location dynamically |
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| Esa wrote: |
| a strategic decision of preventing Message Broker from being used as one... |
Because of competition with other IBM products, you mean?
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| Esa |
| Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 2:58 am Post subject: Re: Read remote location dynamically |
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| Gralgrathor wrote: |
| Esa wrote: |
| a strategic decision of preventing Message Broker from being used as one... |
Because of competition with other IBM products, you mean? |
No, more like protecting the support organization from a whole new family of trouble. |
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| mqjeff |
| Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 5:35 am Post subject: Re: Read remote location dynamically |
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| Esa wrote: |
| Gralgrathor wrote: |
| Esa wrote: |
| a strategic decision of preventing Message Broker from being used as one... |
Because of competition with other IBM products, you mean? |
No, more like protecting the support organization from a whole new family of trouble. |
More like implementing to the actual requirements written.
"User needs to read a file from a local file system."
There's nothing that says that a "local file system" actually has to refer to disk storage installed in or attached using non-networked protocols to the hardware actually running the broker runtime.
For example, windows will let you mount all kinds of remotely accessible disk as "local file system" disks.
Heck, it's probably dead easy to use FileRead node to access contents of DropBox.... As long as it *looks* like a "local file system", then it *is* a local file system.
But in the general case, reading a file is the Halting Problem. You don't know that the file is ready to be processed until you know that the program writing the file has halted. |
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 5:56 am Post subject: Re: Read remote location dynamically |
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| Gralgrathor wrote: |
| Because of competition with other IBM products, you mean? |
IBM historically has no problem selling overlapping or competing products. Try explaining the difference between WESB & WMB to a senior, non-technical, manager.
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| smdavies99 |
| Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 7:44 am Post subject: Re: Read remote location dynamically |
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| Vitor wrote: |
| Gralgrathor wrote: |
| Because of competition with other IBM products, you mean? |
IBM historically has no problem selling overlapping or competing products. Try explaining the difference between WESB & WMB to a senior, non-technical, manager. |
Isn't it now zero with the advent of IIB? 
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 8:08 am Post subject: Re: Read remote location dynamically |
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| smdavies99 wrote: |
| Vitor wrote: |
| Gralgrathor wrote: |
| Because of competition with other IBM products, you mean? |
IBM historically has no problem selling overlapping or competing products. Try explaining the difference between WESB & WMB to a senior, non-technical, manager. |
Isn't it now zero with the advent of IIB? |
Until they invent the Next New Thing 
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