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I would like to use Toolkit with RAM set to more than 2 GB
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t603
PostPosted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 11:58 pm    Post subject: WS IB 9.0: Toolkit still only 32bit with RAM limited < 2 Reply with quote

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Location: Prague, the Czech Republic, Europe

Good morning,

according to my installation of IBM WebSphere Integration Bus 9.0.0 Developer Edition for MS Windows 64bit "9.0.0-IIB-WINX64-DEVELOPER.zip" it looks like Toolkit is still only 32bit application (Eclipse running on the 32bit Java) with RAM limited to less than 2 GB. Am I true, or did I make something wrong during choosing right package or during installation? I read, that WS IB 9.0 has full 64bit support and Eclipse has 64bit edition for many years afaik.

I badly need to set -Xmx=8192m or even -Xmx=16384m in eclipse.ini of Toolkit. Setting -Xmx to 2 GB or more of 7.x or 9.0 Toolkit does not allow to start Toolkit because of its 32bit nature. And this is too low limit today, I guess.

I have many and complex sources, which I have to (but do not want to) divide in many projects, just because "Building workspace..." with all sources always crashes on OutOfMemory error. I want to run "Building workspace..." with all sources each night on workstation or server computer to have the result of each day development next day morning. And even to have builded defined BARs from one workspace using mqsicreatebar, mqsicreatemsgdefs... command also overnight.

Is there any blocking issue, that prevents Toolkit to be run as 64bit Java application? Some *.dll or *.so only in 32bit mode used by Toolkit with no chance to recompile it in 64bit mode or no chance to run them in separate compile process? Are there any real plans to have Toolkit in 64bit mode? Should I have fill in such RFE?

Thank You in advance for answer. Stepan
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smdavies99
PostPosted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 1:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Have you raised the Out of Memory error with IBM as a PMR?
IF not why not?

Sorry to seem stern/severe here but there is a clear problem with the toolkit in your environment that many others who use the TK have not encountered.
There may be a product defect with the TK. Until you use the PMR Route you can't know for sure.
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Every time you reinvent the wheel the more square it gets (anon). If in doubt think and investigate before you ask silly questions.
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t603
PostPosted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 3:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Have you raised the Out of Memory error with IBM as a PMR?
IF not why not?


...No, I did not. All of my colleagues and me met with this OutOfMemory error everytime we created larger workspace, so we guessed, that it is common limitation of Toolkit Java application, when processing large amount of sources (flows, message sets...) within one workflow. So we started to divide our sources into smaller workspaces years ago, before I join my current job.

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Sorry to seem stern/severe here but there is a clear problem with the toolkit in your environment


...It is OK, I am sorry, I could not believe, that someone would ever investigate OutOfMemmory exception in other way that "Increase -Xmx". i am going to collect enough info to be able to raise reasonable PMR.
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t603
PostPosted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 1:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Voyager

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OK, my colleague, who is (within our organisation) eligible to create PMR (now SR) based on data collected by me, create one for this problem. I can not see it, but it should contain detail description of the problem, heapdumps, javacores, desc of workspace, etc. If there will be a need of further explanation, he will forward it to me and then back.

https://www-947.ibm.com/support/servicerequest/readPMR.action?pmrNum=01734&branch=SGC&retainCountryCode=668
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mqjeff
PostPosted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 6:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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t603 wrote:
OK, my colleague, who is (within our organisation) eligible to create PMR (now SR) based on data collected by me, create one for this problem. I can not see it, but it should contain detail description of the problem, heapdumps, javacores, desc of workspace, etc. If there will be a need of further explanation, he will forward it to me and then back.

https://www-947.ibm.com/support/servicerequest/readPMR.action?pmrNum=01734&branch=SGC&retainCountryCode=668


Nobody here will be able to see your PMRs either.

Since they contain customer specific data, they are oddly enough private to each customer.
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