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dsuch
PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 3:13 am    Post subject: New article - The current state of Python and WebSphere MQ Reply with quote

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Hello,

I've recently published an article summarizing the current state of tools available
for anyone wishing to develop MQ applications in Python - I'm sure many people will find it useful.

https://zato.io/blog/posts/the-splendid-state-of-python-and-websphere-mq-programming.html

Enjoy!
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zpat
PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 11:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Do all these support or at least tolerate the use of Websphere MQ 7.1 and 7.5?
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Well, I don't think there is any question about it. It can only be attributable to human error. This sort of thing has cropped up before, and it has always been due to human error.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 12:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Nice work!
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dsuch
PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 12:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Tibor wrote:
Nice work!


Thanks Tibor!

zpat wrote:
Do all these support or at least tolerate the use of Websphere MQ 7.1 and 7.5?


PyMQI supports any version greater than 5.0, including 7.1, and 7.5 and the other two projects build on PyMQI so yes, the versions you mention are supported. I'll make it clearer in the docs.

By the way, it got me curious - what do you mean by tolerating them?
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 6:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Support means all old and new MQ features are useable.

Tolerate means existing MQ features keep working, new ones maybe not.

These are my terms anyway.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 11:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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zpat wrote:
Support means all old and new MQ features are useable.

Tolerate means existing MQ features keep working, new ones maybe not.


Ah, I see. So it will be between tolerating and supporting in that case.

For PyMQI - stuff that can be used on anything between 5.0 and 7.5 is MQI, PCF (MQAI), and verbs MQCONN, MQCONNX, MQOPEN, MQCLOSE, MQPUT, MQPUT1, MQGET, MQCMIT, MQBACK, MQBEGIN, MQINQ, MQSET, MQSUB along with various structures supporting them. All that is wrapped in an object-oriented interface.

New things are added when I need them personally, when someone contributes them, when someone signals a need and I get to it with time or if someone sponsors a feature.

Spring Python adds JMS on top of that + means to easily start long running processes.

Zato is on an even higher level with clusters, CLI, GUI and more.

The higher you go the more you're insulated from actually understanding details of how MQ works because one doesn't really need to understand much in 90% of cases when you simply want to asynchronously send a bunch of messages forming a business process, and you need MQ queues.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hi,

If you are interested, I'll be looking for speakers for Capitalware's MQ Technical Conference v2.0.1.4 (September 2014) and this would make a great topic.

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Roger Lacroix
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 6:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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RogerLacroix wrote:
Capitalware's MQ Technical Conference v2.0.1.4 (September 2014)


You heard it here first......
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 9:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Vitor wrote:
RogerLacroix wrote:
Capitalware's MQ Technical Conference v2.0.1.4 (September 2014)


You heard it here first......

I've already booked the week and sharpening my rapier-like wit for the next time we meet!

Was good to meet your alter ego by the way
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exerk wrote:
I've already booked the week and sharpening my rapier-like wit for the next time we meet!


Yes, it was a shame you didn't bring it this time.

exerk wrote:
Was good to meet your alter ego by the way


Thank you. It's nice to let him out every now and again.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Vitor wrote:
RogerLacroix wrote:
Capitalware's MQ Technical Conference v2.0.1.4 (September 2014)


You heard it here first......

I just finished the paperwork for next year's conference (MQTC v2.0.1.4) at Kalahari. It will be held on September 29 to October 1, 2014 (Monday to Wednesday again - same rooms). So mark it in your calendar!!

Since everyone is pretty busy for the next 6 weeks or so, I'll do the "official" launch of MQTC v2.0.1.4 in the middle of January.

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