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PostPosted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 12:48 pm    Post subject: Does WMB v8 work on Windows 7 Home basic Reply with quote

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Does WMB v8 work on Windows 7 Home basic ?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It works fine for me.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 3:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Simbu : So on windows 7 home basic, are you able to create a new local broker from the toolkit or run the default broker creation wizard without facing any issues/errors ?
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vivek.b.83 wrote:
Simbu : So on windows 7 home basic, are you able to create a new local broker from the toolkit or run the default broker creation wizard without facing any issues/errors ?


WMB is not supported on HOME version of Windows. You need at least Professional version.

http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/wmbhelp/v8r0m0/index.jsp?topic=%2Fcom.ibm.etools.mft.doc%2Fah09082_.htm

http://www-01.ibm.com/software/integration/wbimessagebroker/requirements/

http://pic.dhe.ibm.com/infocenter/prodguid/v1r0/clarity-reports/report/html/softwareReqsForProduct?deliverableId=1281962721693&osPlatform=Windows

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Systems Supported
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Windows 7 Enterprise x86-32 DesktopServer
Windows 7 Enterprise x86-64 DesktopServer
Windows 7 Professional x86-32 DesktopServer
Windows 7 Professional x86-64 DesktopServer
Windows 7 Ultimate x86-32 DesktopServer
Windows 7 Ultimate x86-64 DesktopServer


You would know this if you read the InfoCentre or received instruction from IBM or followed the step-by-step installation instructions.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 4:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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lancelotlinc wrote:
vivek.b.83 wrote:
Simbu : So on windows 7 home basic, are you able to create a new local broker from the toolkit or run the default broker creation wizard without facing any issues/errors ?


WMB is not supported on HOME version of Windows. You need at least Professional version.


So to be clear, it may or may not work on the HOME version; IBM do not support it on anything other than the listed versions & have therefore not tested it on anything other than the listed versions.

This is relevant because if you've found a WMBv8 function which doesn't work that may be because the product doesn't work, you're doing it wrong or that function's having compatibility issues. You can't tell and IBM won't help.
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IBM WebSphere Message Broker makes use of domain policies, groups, and memberships. Windows HOME does not have the component of the Windows operating system that supports query domain group membership; and therefore, when you try to use WMB on Windows HOME, an error is returned when WMB tries to find out what groups your user account belongs to.

As Vitor said, it's not supported; more than that though, it will not work because WMB cannot get a list of domain memberships that the current user is a member of.

http://www.intowindows.com/difference-between-windows-7-home-premium-professional-ultimate-editions/
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lancelotlinc wrote:
it will not work because WMB cannot get a list of domain memberships that the current user is a member of.


It's possible to spoof such things and convince software that uses these features it can see them. You could legitimately replace "spoof" with "kludge" & the success of such activities is dependent on a number of factors, including but not limited to the actual install configuration of the Windoze involved (as no 2 Windozes installs are entirely identical) and the skill of the person(s) involved. Clearly @Simbu has to some extent pulled this off, where the OP has not. I look forward to a long and amusing exchange as the OP attempts to tease the fine details out of @Simbu, while we watch from the sidelines. Popcorn anyone?

It remains, as you correctly point out, an unsupported configuration & performed as the risk of the person performing it.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 6:17 am    Post subject: Re: Does WMB v8 work on Windows 7 Home basic Reply with quote

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vivek.b.83 wrote:
Does WMB v8 work on Windows 7 Home basic ?

I have downloaded all the required packages as mentioned below :
1. 8.0.0-WS-MB-WINX64-FP0000-TRIAL.zip - Broker runtime
2. 8.0.0-WS-MBT-WINIA32-FP0000-TRIAL-D1.zip - Broker toolkit disk 1
3. 8.0.0-WS-MBT-WINIA32-FP0000-TRIAL-D2.zip - Broker toolkit disk 2
4. 8.0.0-WS-MBT-WINIA32-FP0000-TRIAL-D3.zip - Broker toolkit disk 3
5. CZRV5ML.zip


The only difference that i found from your above listed of packages is 8.0.0-WS-MB-WINIA64-FP0000-TRIAL.zip which is 64bit runtime but what i installed is 32bit runtime 8.0.0-WS-MB-WINIA32-FP0000-TRIAL.zip

WMB 7.0,8.0 trail and IIB9.0 developer edition working fine so far in my Windows 7 Home basic.
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Vitor wrote:
lancelotlinc wrote:
it will not work because WMB cannot get a list of domain memberships that the current user is a member of.


It's possible to spoof such things and convince software that uses these features it can see them. You could legitimately replace "spoof" with "kludge" & the success of such activities is dependent on a number of factors, including but not limited to the actual install configuration of the Windoze involved (as no 2 Windozes installs are entirely identical) and the skill of the person(s) involved. Clearly @Simbu has to some extent pulled this off, where the OP has not. I look forward to a long and amusing exchange as the OP attempts to tease the fine details out of @Simbu, while we watch from the sidelines. Popcorn anyone?

It remains, as you correctly point out, an unsupported configuration & performed as the risk of the person performing it.


And even if , with the help of @Simbu manages to get it going, any further problems the OP encounters, no one will be willing to assist. So, overall, a bad idea.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 7:54 am    Post subject: Does WMB v8 work on Windows 7 Home basic Reply with quote

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Hey thanks for the support Vitor. But initially my posts were not related to each other.
I had a doubt but was not confirmed if the issue was related to the Windows 7 basic version or not.
Finally it's clarified .

Thanks.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 9:01 am    Post subject: Re: Does WMB v8 work on Windows 7 Home basic Reply with quote

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vivek.b.83 wrote:
Hey thanks for the support Vitor. But initially my posts were not related to each other.


Not related? You asked if the fact you couldn't create a broker is because you're running on the Home edition. You can understand why I thought it was related.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 10:43 am    Post subject: Does WMB v8 work on Windows 7 Home basic Reply with quote

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That's what i mentioned i.e. "Initially" my posts were not related till the time u replied on them.
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