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| Caket |
 Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 12:51 am Post subject: MB8 course review/recommend |
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I'm looking to attend a MB8 course sometime soon, i would to like to know from readers who have attended this type of course, which companies/institutes provided the best/complete training on this subject. Location is not important.
It would be good also to list the ones that did not live up to expectation. Think this will be valuable for everyone in this forum. |
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| dogorsy |
| Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 1:09 am Post subject: |
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| Have you considered doing the IIB9 instead ? |
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| smdavies99 |
| Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 2:20 am Post subject: |
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| dogorsy wrote: |
| Have you considered doing the IIB9 instead ? |
Are you hinting that there are IIB9 courses already available?
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| dogorsy |
| Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 4:07 am Post subject: |
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| smdavies99 wrote: |
| dogorsy wrote: |
| Have you considered doing the IIB9 instead ? |
Are you hinting that there are IIB9 courses already available? |
no, but if it was me, I would investigate , rather than go to an MB8 and be already out of date with technology... |
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| lancelotlinc |
| Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 4:13 am Post subject: |
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| smdavies99 |
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| dogorsy wrote: |
no, but if it was me, I would investigate , rather than go to an MB8 and be already out of date with technology... |
I guess that support for V8 ends next week? (if your argument were true)
Let's look at some facts.
1) V9 has been out for about a month
2) Most seasoned devs do not implement a Vx.0.0.0 product in production
3) It takes time to develop a V9 training course
4) V8 is still supported and is the subject of most active use by developers.
I'd go on a V8 course it one was offered to me.
I would not recommend V9 until 9.0.0.1 at the earliest.
If you are working on a project that uses V9 then great. How do you find developers with two years V9 experience then? ( I saw an ad for a position where this was mandatory only last week)
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 4:37 am Post subject: |
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| dogorsy wrote: |
| smdavies99 wrote: |
| dogorsy wrote: |
| Have you considered doing the IIB9 instead ? |
Are you hinting that there are IIB9 courses already available? |
no, but if it was me, I would investigate , rather than go to an MB8 and be already out of date with technology... |
We have, and there are no acceptable IIBv9 courses available.
Also WMBv8 is not "out of date". No end of life date has been announced and you only have to see how many people post in this forum about WMBv6.1 and (gulp) WMBv6.0 to realise there's not going to be a sudden migration onto IIBv9. At least not until the first fix pack.... 
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| mqjeff |
| Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 6:27 am Post subject: |
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I'll tell you one company that doesn't provide this education any more.
IBM.
All training is outsourced now.
I reserve comments on whether the IBM training classes are any good or not, I've never taken them. Well, okay, I took the one on Broker v2.1. |
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| Vitor |
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| I took the one on Broker v2.1. |
No you didn't. You took the course on MQSIv2.1, like I did. 
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| Simbu |
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I received the below tweets from https://twitter.com/IBM_Broker but the links are broken.
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Message Broker @IBM_Broker 14 Aug
New Classroom Course: IBM Integration Bus V9 Application Development I http://ibm.co/1ctnNjE #IBMWMB #IBMIB
Message Broker @IBM_Broker 14 Aug
New Online Course: IBM Integration Bus V9 Application Development I http://ibm.co/1ctnhC6 #IBMWMB #IBMIB |
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| rekarm01 |
| Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 12:36 am Post subject: Re: MB8 course review/recommend |
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| lancelotlinc wrote: |
| You must be trained by IBM in order to receive support for the product. |
That's not true.
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| mqjeff wrote: |
| I took the one on Broker v2.1. |
No you didn't. You took the course on MQSI v2.1, like I did. |
More likely either MQSI v2.0, or WMQI 2.1. |
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 5:09 am Post subject: Re: MB8 course review/recommend |
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| rekarm01 wrote: |
| More likely either MQSI v2.0, or WMQI 2.1. |
It was never WMQIv2.1
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| mqjeff |
| Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 6:40 am Post subject: Re: MB8 course review/recommend |
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| Vitor wrote: |
| rekarm01 wrote: |
| More likely either MQSI v2.0, or WMQI 2.1. |
It was never WMQIv2.1 |
It was after CSD 3. |
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 6:48 am Post subject: Re: MB8 course review/recommend |
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| mqjeff wrote: |
| Vitor wrote: |
| rekarm01 wrote: |
| More likely either MQSI v2.0, or WMQI 2.1. |
It was never WMQIv2.1 |
It was after CSD 3. |
Really?
Something I never thought I'd say to you, but are you sure? 
Things you learn.... 
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| mqjeff |
| Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 7:12 am Post subject: Re: MB8 course review/recommend |
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| Vitor wrote: |
| mqjeff wrote: |
| Vitor wrote: |
| rekarm01 wrote: |
| More likely either MQSI v2.0, or WMQI 2.1. |
It was never WMQIv2.1 |
It was after CSD 3. |
Really?
Something I never thought I'd say to you, but are you sure? |
No, I'm not sure. That was a long time ago, and sometimes I forget yesterday.
I remember there being some stuff where there was a version of 2.1 that had NEON and a version that didn't have NEON. One was MQSI and one was WMQI, I thought. And since 2.1 CSD 3 introduced MRM, you couldn't have done earlier levels without NEON.
And then we moved to v5 and WBIMB.
Well, after waiting two weeks because v5 GA was DOA and needed a manufacturing refresh. (never forget!) |
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