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| pcelari |
 Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 11:15 am Post subject: Use WMB to convert Lotus Notes data to outlook possible? |
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Hello,
given the universal connectivity nature of WMB, principlly it can be use to convert Lotus Notes data into Outlook ones. The challenge seems to be the large variety of format and size of data.
Has anyone done anything similar? Kindly share some insight?
many thanks,
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| lancelotlinc |
| Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 11:16 am Post subject: |
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| mqjeff |
| Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 11:24 am Post subject: |
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| lancelotlinc wrote: |
| Email nodes and DFDL seem prime for this... |
Why would you use DFDL when there's already a MIME parser?
Neither Notes nor Outlook have strictly email data. So saying that one can use email to convert this data is probably a bit premature.
Regardless, Broker is really not intended to be used as an ETL tool. It *can* be used that way, but it's not the direction of the base product development.
Presumably Outlook and Microsoft would have considered the competitive situation of Lotus Notes and provided tools to assist in migration. |
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| pcelari |
| Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 11:42 am Post subject: |
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Many thanks for the insight. Actually Lotus Notes and Outlook are not just about emails, there're many applications come with each, not even counting the custom-built ones.
So converting between the two will be daunting tasks, standard products to perform the conversion will certainly be very costly. That prompts me to think WMB's universal connectivity should be able to handle it. The only things needed would be just format.
I wonder if anyone has done something similar.
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| kimbert |
| Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 12:07 pm Post subject: |
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| The only things needed would be just format |
Yeah - no complexity there at all 
I know what you mean - there will be specific interactions that you need to sort out between Outlook and Notes. The rest you can probably ignore. So WMB/IIB can very probably do those specific application integration tasks.
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| pcelari |
| Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 10:31 am Post subject: |
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Wow, that's a very encouraging sign to hear from kimbert about this. 
I figure the first step would be to be able read/write NSF files, for which a message set must be created. However, given the proprietary nature of ODS (.NFS ) and the frequent change from version to version. I wonder if this is possible, unless IBM provides a NFSInput node soon.
Or has anyone done this via a "Lotus Notes Client Input/Output node" - thus avoiding defining a message set? Actually why not, we have SAPInput, SiebelInput, etc, so we can expect more will be coming..., right?
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| lancelotlinc |
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| pcelari wrote: |
| a "Lotus Notes Client Input/Output node" - thus avoiding defining a message set? Actually why not, we have SAPInput, SiebelInput, etc, so we can expect more will be coming..., right? |
hmmm. Interesting thought. Although, Lotus has plenty of migration utilities outside of message broker, and fully migrating a Lotus installation is more than just copying emails. Many popular clients have a way to connect to Lotus and there are numerous cloud-based clients already in place.
So the question to answer would be: of what business value would this new node bring that is not already present ?
SAP and Siebel nodes bring a specific value to the ESB whereas the value a Lotus node would bring is undefined. Nothing stops you from creating a custom node and submitting the custom node to IBM for inclusion in a support pack.
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| kimbert |
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To be clear, what I meant to say is that 'just format' might actually be a very hard problem indeed. Developers have a habit of assuming that if they can read a file then it must be easy to read it using a computer. Actually doing that reliably and robustly is sometimes a different matter.
Similarly, WMB can, in principle, do any integration task at all. So it is possible for WMB to integrate Notes with Outlook. Whether it is technically feasible/worthwhile to meet your requirements using WMB is another question, and I would need a lot more information ( very specific information, too much to post here ) before attempting to answer that one.
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