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| EricCox |
 Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 12:25 pm Post subject: NACHA ACH Files in Message Broker 8 |
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To all,
We may have a requirement to handle NACHA ACH Files in a Message Broker 8 flow.
Is there a node/plugin or DFDL or any other tools in Message Broker 8 to help me parse an ACH File?
I see there is a WTX ISSW offering to handle this ACH format. We are not allowed to use WTX in our enterprise. I'm looking for something native to Broker 8. We are on 8.0.0.2.
Thanks,
Eric |
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| shanson |
| Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 1:12 pm Post subject: |
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Eric, in order to assist please can you answer the following questions:
1) which version(s) of the NACHA rules do you need - they are revised every year
2) what level of rules checking do you need or do you just need parsing
3) do you use NACHA 'addenda' records and if so what do they contain - sometimes they embed X12 or EDIFACT messages |
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| lancelotlinc |
| Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 3:39 am Post subject: |
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You can download the XSDs from here: http://www.fms.treas.gov/data/index.html
Then create message model from the XSDs.
You can also purchase the SWIFT ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Society_for_Worldwide_Interbank_Financial_Telecommunication ) industry pack from IBM:
http://www-01.ibm.com/software/integration/wdatastagetx/packs.html
For native (ie. non-WTX), you can use the IA0T support pack:
http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg24006889
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This SupportPac is a Category One services offering for WebSphere Message Broker, enabling the integration of SWIFT based messaging systems with both SWIFT and non-SWIFT systems.
The solution comprises two primary components:
- SWIFT FIN MT Message Sets: Pre-packaged meta-data definitions for SWIFT FIN MT messages, delivered as Message Set projects.
- SWIFT FIN MT Validation: Rules based validation solution implementing a set of validation rules equivalent to SWIFT FIN MT Network Validation, delivered as a Java plug-in node.
Typically the metadata and validation components support the current (live) SWIFT FIN MT Standards Release, the previous SWIFT FIN MT Standards Release and the next SWIFT FIN MT Standards Release. For example, as at June 2012, the 2010, 2011 and 2012 SWIFT FIN MT Standards Releases are supported. |
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| mqjeff |
| Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 3:41 am Post subject: |
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Except for that part where the original poster already said they can't use WTX. |
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| lancelotlinc |
| Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 3:42 am Post subject: |
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| mqjeff wrote: |
Except for that part where the original poster already said they can't use WTX. |
Please see my last edit above.
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| shanson |
| Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 5:04 am Post subject: |
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| EricCox |
| Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 5:26 am Post subject: Finding More Information |
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Shannon is correct. I am talking about the ACH flat file format.
We are meeting with the vendor next week. I will find out all of that information and post it here.
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| lancelotlinc |
| Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 5:30 am Post subject: |
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It all depends. A turn-key off-the-shelf solution is provided, but Eric has been told he is not allowed to use it. "Non-SWIFT" covers X12 EDIFACT NACHA. The Fed publishes standardized messages that he can model to produce his NACHA output.
Nonetheless, implementing from scratch when an off-the-shelf solution exists often ends up being more expensive than not. There is much more to this than data format. You need validation rules. Financial institutions grade the quality of your data stream, and if your acceptance criteria is not met, your grade decreases, which in turn additional service charges may apply.
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| EricCox |
| Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 5:40 am Post subject: Parsing and Reading Values Only |
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Our use of the NACHA ACH transactions will be to parse the records and read values out of the fields and map them to an XML/XSD format to be sent along to a data aggregator.
We will not be producing NACHA ACH output. |
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| mqjeff |
| Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 5:46 am Post subject: Re: Parsing and Reading Values Only |
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| EricCox wrote: |
Our use of the NACHA ACH transactions will be to parse the records and read values out of the fields and map them to an XML/XSD format to be sent along to a data aggregator.
We will not be producing NACHA ACH output. |
What level of validation do you need to apply to the parsed records? Do you need to ensure that the input message conforms to the rules defined for the message format by the NACHA standard?
This involves things outside of merely parsing, as lancelotlinc suggests. It means making sure of things like if FieldA has a value "X" then FieldC must be in the range of 20 to 60 and FieldQ does not exist, instead you have substructure 12.
Or is it sufficient to do a straight mapping of parsed fields into the XML structure and then rely on the XSD and the data aggregator to accept or reject the message based on higher level criteria. |
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| EricCox |
| Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 5:55 am Post subject: ACH Handling |
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The vendor we use to process the ACH transactions will do all the required validation.
For my purpose I just need to parse the ACH, map the fields to the aggregators flat file format and send it along via MQ.
It's a easy game...four! |
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| shanson |
| Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 6:36 am Post subject: |
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Eric, which release(s) of NACHA do you need to parse? My understanding is that the yearly revisions tend to change the validation rules rather than the data format. But knowing the release(s) will help.
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| EricCox |
| Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 6:38 am Post subject: Will find out |
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shanson,
I will find out. I do not know at this time. I have it on my list of questions for the vendor.
thanks |
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| shanson |
| Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 6:40 am Post subject: |
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| I have a prototype set of DFDL schemas for NACHA which I believe will do what you want. I need to get them into shape and get the correct legal stuff in place before I can share them. |
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| EricCox |
| Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 7:10 am Post subject: Realistically |
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Realistically that is exactly what I'm looking for. I'm trying to do everythign in DFDL since that is the right way to go.
Please let me know when you are comfortable sharing. I'd like to build on your work.
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