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| ankurlodhi |
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there were no messages on the queue when the Queue Manager was shut down as it was activity of after production hours.
Vitor can you Put some light on the dodge you have mentioned i never read any post on them. |
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| Andyh |
| Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 11:45 am Post subject: |
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A queue manager cannot run with only 1 recovery log.
When was this queue manager last running ?
If the queue manager has been running since the last tape backup it is extremely unlikely that restoring the 'missing' log files from tape will help.
A cold start might be your best option here.
It's not a supported operation, but if you've lost the recovery logs it might be your best option. MQ should be able to talk you through this procedure, and any other steps needed to recover (for example resolving any associated indoubts and channels).
In the event of a queue manager restart failure then pretty much the first thing that should be done is to take a backup of the queue manager data and recovery logs. If nothing else, this will allow MQ support to investigate the reason for the restart failure (not applicable in this case). |
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| ankurlodhi |
| Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 12:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Andyh can you provide me with steps how to cold start MQ. |
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 12:09 pm Post subject: |
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| ankurlodhi wrote: |
| there were no messages on the queue when the Queue Manager was shut down as it was activity of after production hours. |
It's a well designed WMQ system that has no messages on any queue once the day's processing is done. And a very confident man that's sure it's always the case.
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| Vitor can you Put some light on the dodge you have mentioned i never read any post on them. |
Start here and accept that this is not point in time recovery, just a way to get your queue manager running.
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| mqjeff |
| Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 12:38 pm Post subject: |
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and if the qmgr is part of a cluster, it's better to do a cold-start than to delete it and rebuild it.
if the qmgr is not part of a cluster, it's better to delete it and rebuild it. |
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| ankurlodhi |
| Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 12:52 pm Post subject: |
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vitor this was a planned activity for which an outage was taken and box was taken down after making an information, actually it was a CPU fan replacement, so whole box was taken.
so yes i am very confident there was no msg in anyqueue anywhere .. |
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| ankurlodhi |
| Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 1:11 pm Post subject: |
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| the queue manager is not a part of any cluster but since we have asked for the Tapes i will wait for them and restore the MQ file system. if that doesn't work i will recreate it. |
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| ankurlodhi |
| Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 1:13 pm Post subject: |
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will this work on version 5.3
As well as anything works on 5.3 any more |
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| ankurlodhi |
| Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 6:33 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for the Advise everyone i got the Queue manager running but i might need some more help i will seek it when i need it.
as of now queue manager is running but
channels are in going in Retrying state one channel was running a few minutes ago but now it's not working
may be there is a problem on the other side. |
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| ankurlodhi |
| Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 8:15 am Post subject: |
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we are getting this error from the mainframe side
CSQX500I *MQA CSQXRESP Channel MQM.PPWEB2.TO.MQSA started
+CSQX632I *MQA CSQXRESP SSL certificate has no associated user ID, 133
remote channel MQM.PPWEB2.TO.MQSA
connection sbkprdprtweb2 (::ffff:192.168.172.92)
- channel initiator user ID used
+CSQX526E *MQA CSQXRESP Message sequence error for channel 137
MQM.PPWEB2.TO.MQSA, sent=40663 expected=40665
+CSQX599E *MQA CSQXRESP Channel MQM.PPWEB2.TO.MQSA ended abnormally |
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 9:03 am Post subject: |
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| ankurlodhi wrote: |
+CSQX526E *MQA CSQXRESP Message sequence error for channel 137
MQM.PPWEB2.TO.MQSA, sent=40663 expected=40665
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Says it all. The queue manager did have messages in it when you brought it down.
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| PeterPotkay |
| Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 9:13 am Post subject: |
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| Vitor wrote: |
| ankurlodhi wrote: |
+CSQX526E *MQA CSQXRESP Message sequence error for channel 137
MQM.PPWEB2.TO.MQSA, sent=40663 expected=40665
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Says it all. The queue manager did have messages in it when you brought it down. |
The SNDR/RCVR channel pair could have been inactive at Sequence Number 40665 and then one end was restored to an older point in time. This by itself wouldn't be proof there were messages in flight or even waiting in the XMITQ.
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 9:15 am Post subject: |
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| PeterPotkay wrote: |
| Vitor wrote: |
| ankurlodhi wrote: |
+CSQX526E *MQA CSQXRESP Message sequence error for channel 137
MQM.PPWEB2.TO.MQSA, sent=40663 expected=40665
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Says it all. The queue manager did have messages in it when you brought it down. |
The SNDR/RCVR channel pair could have been inactive at Sequence Number 40665 and then one end was restored to an older point in time. This by itself wouldn't be proof there were messages in flight or even waiting in the XMITQ. |
Good point. The OP did talk about a restore.
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| ankurlodhi |
| Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 9:55 am Post subject: |
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i didn't restored the queue manager i followed the instructions provided in link given by vitor after that ..
the Reveiver channels and Listening from my end which is on solaris
but there is this errors on mainframe side.
what can we do to fix it. as i am not handling MQ over mainframe. |
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| bruce2359 |
| Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 9:58 am Post subject: |
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| ankurlodhi wrote: |
| what can we do to fix it. as i am not handling MQ over mainframe. |
What do the mainframe support people say?
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