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| sandy vish |
 Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:43 pm Post subject: messageflow should be stopped immediatly after deployment |
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| Hi i need to deploy a flow and the flow should be stopped, do we have option for doing so.... without using mqsistopmsgflow, i need to check wheter the we have permission to deploy in EG or not.....Valid response plzz |
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| Senthamizh |
| Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 1:02 am Post subject: |
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| sandy vish wrote: |
| i need to deploy a flow and the flow should be stopped, do we have option for doing so.... without using mqsistopmsgflow |
Don't deploy the flow, deploy it when you want to start the msgflow per your case... |
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| sandy vish |
| Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 1:10 am Post subject: |
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| Valid usefull responses plz.... |
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| kash3338 |
| Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 1:25 am Post subject: |
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| smdavies99 |
| Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 1:43 am Post subject: |
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| kash3338 wrote: |
1. If the flow is listening to a MQ Queue, inhibit the queue
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Perhaps this should read
1. If the flow is listening to a MQ Queue, GET inhibit the queue
perchance?
Think about what would happen if the user enabled PUT inhibit?
Please note that GET Inhibiting the queue will cause an error to be logged to the system event log. Some sysadmins might get into a hissy fit over such trivialities.
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| zpat |
| Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 3:12 am Post subject: |
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I raised this as a requirement some time back and it's now in WMB v8.
I vaguely remember seeing it mentioned in a WMB v7 fixpack but I am not 100% sure. |
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| kash3338 |
| Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 3:14 am Post subject: |
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| smdavies99 wrote: |
Perhaps this should read
1. If the flow is listening to a MQ Queue, GET inhibit the queue
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Agreed. I should have been more specific. |
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| kash3338 |
| Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 3:18 am Post subject: |
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| zpat wrote: |
| I vaguely remember seeing it mentioned in a WMB v7 fixpack but I am not 100% sure. |
I guess this is the fix pack you mentioned. |
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| zpat |
| Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 4:11 am Post subject: |
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| kash3338 wrote: |
| zpat wrote: |
| I vaguely remember seeing it mentioned in a WMB v7 fixpack but I am not 100% sure. |
I guess this is the fix pack you mentioned. |
Ah yes, however 7005 is now available (which of course will include it). |
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| zpat |
| Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 4:13 am Post subject: |
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Oh look, my 4000th post - will I get a new title?
Sadly, No! |
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 7:12 am Post subject: Re: messageflow should be stopped immediatly after deploymen |
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[quote="sandy vish"]Hi i need to deploy a flow and the flow should be stopped, do we have option for doing so.... without using mqsistopmsgflow, i need to check wheter the we have permission to deploy in EG or not.....
| sandy vish wrote: |
| Valid response plzz |
It would help if you asked a valid question. You asked:
| sandy vish wrote: |
| Hi i need to deploy a flow and the flow should be stopped |
which is not the correct question. You asked the correct question later which is:
| sandy vish wrote: |
| i need to check wheter the we have permission to deploy in EG or not |
to which the answer is not to deploy a flow and see if it fails, but to check the deploy security settings for the user id.
I'm assuming here you have some kind of generic automated deployment tool which needs to verify that a given user has deploy permissions against a given EG before doing a deploy in an environment with very granular security. Which makes the question only slightly valid. If you're just checking to see if the magic's gone away since the last time you checked then that's not a valid thing to do at all.
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 7:13 am Post subject: |
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| zpat wrote: |
Oh look, my 4000th post - will I get a new title?
Sadly, No! |
But you do get congratulations.
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| sandy vish |
| Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 12:53 am Post subject: |
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I have done GET inhibit the queue and still the input count is showing as 1 and the flow didnot stop. 
Vitor
we are using automated deployment tool.
thanks for the inputs.......... |
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| kash3338 |
| Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 1:05 am Post subject: |
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| sandy vish wrote: |
I have done GET inhibit the queue and still the input count is showing as 1 and the flow didnot stop.
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When you GET inhibit a queue, it does not mean you are stopping a Message Flow. They are totally independent components. Your flow just would not be able to pick any messages from the queue and process. It should help in your scenario, since the message flow wont be processing the messages in the queue when you deploy the flow. |
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| mqjeff |
| Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 4:55 am Post subject: |
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what, exactly, are you trying to do?
In broker v8, you can explicitly control the state that a newly deployed message flow will be in, as part of the settings on the BAR file.
But if the only reason to deploy something is to *find out* if you are able to deploy something, this is the *wrong* thing to do.
You should *know* at all times who can and can not deploy things, because you have taken steps to secure the system and made records of each access modification made. |
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