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| mqjeff |
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| RogerLacroix wrote: |
| Therefore, IBM needs to provide its users (me) with the information in a format that I want to consume it in. Period - no exceptions. |
So you'll ship MQ Visual Edit documentation on punched cards or 120 column continuous feed paper? |
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| RogerLacroix |
| Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 10:44 am Post subject: |
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| bruce2359 wrote: |
| Do you have something smaller? |
No.
Although, my wife purchased a Canon Pixma MG6120 Photo printer.
http://www.canon.ca/inetCA/products?m=gp&pid=4674
- 3-in-1 colour printer, scanner & copier
- Really nice photo printer
- Both wireless 802.11 b/g/n and wired Ethernet RJ45
I use it to print on printable CDs and DVDs. It works really well.
My wife purchased it last fall and it has been working very well. I have it connected via RJ45 to the router so that everyone in the house can use it.
If you need an All-in-One printer, you should check if Brother has a newer version of the MFC-9840CDW printer.
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Roger Lacroix
Capitalware Inc.
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| RogerLacroix |
| Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 10:51 am Post subject: |
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| mqjeff wrote: |
| So you'll ship MQ Visual Edit documentation on punched cards or 120 column continuous feed paper? |
Sarcasm, will get you nowhere. I do provide MQ Visual Edit's manual in the format users want: Java Help format, HTML available online and PDF. For MQ Visual Edit, a hard-copy of the manual is extra and can be purchased (whereas MQAUSX, MQME, MQSSX, etc.. is included in the cost of the software).
So yes, I do my best to meet my customer's needs.
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Capitalware Inc.
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| George Carey |
| Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 2:59 pm Post subject: Wah Wah Wah Wah |
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| This is not a Beta vs VHS war (80s reference for those youngsters) but rather I want IBM to provide me with documentation that I can fluidly read. Yes, InfoCenter is fine for looking up a topic but not very good for reading. |
And From my earlier post and my earlier ... earlier post ...
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This discussion has a serious 'deja vu' all over again look to it!
http://www.mqseries.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=54593
So I will restate what I felt on this 2-years ago. (from July 2010)
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What if you just wanted to do some reading ... a PDF is the way to do it(next to a book anyway). A hyperlinked ... document is tedious to painful to 'read' if you can call it that.
It is a WIKI model useful for searching perhaps but if you wish to read in length and detail ... you want a book format ... not a busted up set of synopsized content snippets. |
And I believe I saw a similar post by Bruce ... and others ...
How many times does it need to be repeated ? Clearly there is a tin-ear at IBM Corporate ...
You might as well be doing a Charlie Brown cartoon bubble dialogue (Wah wah wah wah wah!) ... that is all that is getting through.
On Jeff's sarcasm:
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mqjeff wrote:
So you'll ship MQ Visual Edit documentation on punched cards or 120 column continuous feed paper? |
Maybe not! Those may indeed be his preferred modes of information ingest!
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| mqjeff |
| Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:26 pm Post subject: Re: Wah Wah Wah Wah |
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| George Carey wrote: |
On Jeff's sarcasm:
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mqjeff wrote:
So you'll ship MQ Visual Edit documentation on punched cards or 120 column continuous feed paper? |
Maybe not! Those may indeed be his preferred modes of information ingest! |
Indeed, I wasn't being sarcastic!
But, no, I don't want to read the infocenter on either of those formats.
But it raises an interesting question.
Would anyone be willing to pay for a PDF, rather than getting the info center for free? |
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| crossland |
| Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 1:38 am Post subject: Re: Wah Wah Wah Wah |
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| George Carey wrote: |
From Rogers post:
How many times does it need to be repeated ? Clearly there is a tin-ear at IBM Corporate ...
You might as well be doing a Charlie Brown cartoon bubble dialogue (Wah wah wah wah wah!) ... that is all that is getting through.
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All the more reason to vote here  :
http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/rfe/execute?use_case=viewRfe&CR_ID=21041 |
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| bruce2359 |
| Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 4:46 am Post subject: Re: Wah Wah Wah Wah |
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| mqjeff wrote: |
| Would anyone be willing to pay for a PDF, rather than getting the info center for free? |
Documentation is a mix of technical information and marketing. And, we're already paying for it - in the form of license.
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