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| mqjeff |
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| bruce2359 wrote: |
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| As I said, it's a *bad* idea to use strmqmtrc for monitoring. |
WMQ trace is a wonderful tool to fill up a filesystem, however. |
Yes, so it's an excellent mechanism to *test* your monitoring, but a terrible mechanism to *provide* your monitoring. |
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| ankurlodhi |
| Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 9:37 am Post subject: |
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| why is strmqmtrc is such a bad idea even when it is made for the sole purpose of monitoring. . |
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 9:48 am Post subject: |
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| ankurlodhi wrote: |
| why is strmqmtrc is such a bad idea even when it is made for the sole purpose of monitoring. . |
Where here does it say that the trace is made for the sole purpose of monitoring?
Where does it imply in that section that the trace is useful for anything other than tracing out the operation of various selectable queue manager components for the purpose of problem tracing and resolution?
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| Toronto_MQ |
| Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 5:43 am Post subject: |
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| ankurlodhi wrote: |
| why is strmqmtrc is such a bad idea even when it is made for the sole purpose of monitoring. . |
I think you need to go back and read the documentation. |
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| dgolding |
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| ankurlodhi wrote: |
| why is strmqmtrc is such a bad idea even when it is made for the sole purpose of monitoring. . |
If you know all the answers, why are you asking the questions?  |
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| ankurlodhi |
| Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 10:06 am Post subject: |
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ok i read it but even then when it's there to trace the operations of selectable components of the queue managers.
why do we refrain from using it? |
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| mqjeff |
| Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 10:18 am Post subject: |
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| ankurlodhi wrote: |
ok i read it but even then when it's there to trace the operations of selectable components of the queue managers.
why do we refrain from using it? |
Because it's designed to allow for troubleshooting not monitoring.
Leaving trace enabled will a) fill up your file system, b) significantly impact the performance of your queue manager, c) provide far more data than is meaningful for a monitoring solution, d) hide all of the meaningful information behind a vast amount of unmeaningful information.
But, you know, we're just random strangers on the internet. So go right ahead and do what you think is best. |
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 7:35 am Post subject: |
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| mqjeff wrote: |
Because it's designed to allow for troubleshooting not monitoring.
Leaving trace enabled will a) fill up your file system, b) significantly impact the performance of your queue manager, c) provide far more data than is meaningful for a monitoring solution, d) hide all of the meaningful information behind a vast amount of unmeaningful information. |
| mqjeff wrote: |
| But, you know, we're just random strangers on the internet. So go right ahead and do what you think is best. |
Whatever solution you come up with is the one you're going to have to live with, support & justify with your management.
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| bruce2359 |
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You have been misinformed and misled as to the purpose and function of a trace. It is neither a performance tool, nor an application testing tool.
A trace is called for, usually at the direction of IBM, to capture granular detail about the internal operation of WMQ and its components, for the purpose of problem-determination, debugging and error correction.
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| ankurlodhi |
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thank you everyone thanks for sharing your knowledge with me.  |
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