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| kotagiriaashish |
 Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 12:53 pm Post subject: What is Broker Built on? |
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| A friend of mine said that its built on Tomcat, But I seriously doubt him... |
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 1:00 pm Post subject: Re: What is Broker Built on? |
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| kotagiriaashish wrote: |
| A friend of mine said that its built on Tomcat, But I seriously doubt him... |
You should. WMB isn't built on anything; it's a standalone product that doesn't require additional code support.
Your friend might be thinking of WESB, which is built on / integrated with / requires WAS.
But WAS is not Tomcat. If it's anything, it's Apache.
WMB is a series of Java applets running under Tomcat? There's an architectual vision to conjure with...
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| mqjeff |
| Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 1:02 pm Post subject: |
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It's not built on tomcat.
Broker runs in a C++ runtime with a Java runtime. |
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| kotagiriaashish |
| Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 1:03 pm Post subject: Re: What is Broker Built on? |
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| Vitor wrote: |
| WMB is a series of Java applets running under Tomcat? There's an architectual vision to conjure with... |
and to my amazement I found a Catalina folder along with the runtime folders...  |
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| kotagiriaashish |
| Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 1:04 pm Post subject: |
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| mqjeff wrote: |
It's not built on tomcat.
Broker runs in a C++ runtime with a Java runtime. |
c++ in java?? |
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| mqjeff |
| Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 1:05 pm Post subject: Re: What is Broker Built on? |
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| kotagiriaashish wrote: |
| Vitor wrote: |
| WMB is a series of Java applets running under Tomcat? There's an architectual vision to conjure with... |
and to my amazement I found a Catalina folder along with the runtime folders... |
That's the biphttplistener. It uses Tomcat under the covers.
The SOAP listener uses AXIS under the covers.
Neither of them host main broker functionality. |
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| smdavies99 |
| Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 1:06 pm Post subject: |
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I'd really like to know why your friend thinks that.
Please enlighten us. I'm sure we'd all have a good laugh.
Seriously, your friend is very much mistaken.
It has a number of technologies built into it. A scan of this forum would give you a number of hints.
Then a perusal of the documentation would give you more detail of the underlying technology at the core of broker.
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 1:12 pm Post subject: |
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| kotagiriaashish wrote: |
| c++ in java?? |
No. C++ spinning up a Java runtime. Like (as my most worthy associate points out) it spins up a number of technologies.
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 1:18 pm Post subject: Re: What is Broker Built on? |
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| kotagiriaashish wrote: |
| and to my amazement I found a Catalina folder along with the runtime folders... |
There's all sorts of stuff down there in the darkness. Most of which (as recent threads have discussed) it's best not to try and exploit or extend directly.
I mean, just because you've found bits of Tomcat & WMB is internally exploiting Tomcat technology doesn't mean you can replace all your Tomcat servers with WMB & have it run the code they were running. Nor does it mean you can treat WMB as if it's Tomcat.
I suppose a lot hinges on what your friend meant by "built on". If he meant "built in" then he'd be partially right. To me "built on" means "relies on" (as WESB is built on WAS) or "extends" (as WMQ monitoring is built on the base Tivoli Omegamon product).
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| lancelotlinc |
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More important than what WMB is built on, is what WMB can offer. WMB offers extremely fast data parsing, in a high speed messaging engine, far superior to any other product. The toolkit by itself is a jewel also.
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| mgk |
| Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 1:32 pm Post subject: |
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| C++ spinning up a Java runtime |
Quite so. And in V8 there is also a .NET runtime (CLR) as well (on Windows).
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