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| zpat |
 Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 1:14 am Post subject: WMB 7003 toolkit install on Linux 86-64 |
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I need to install enough to run the WMB 7003 mqsideploy and mqsibaroverride commands on a linux server (to which I have only ssh and sftp access).
Can someone kindly advise
1 - do these mqsi commands come with toolkit or broker, or both?
2 - can I install linux toolkit (manually) without a GUI?
3 - How do I apply fixpack 7003 - does installation manager work without a GUI?
4 - Can a x-windows session be used for the GUI?
5 - I have installed MQ client - is this actually needed?
I am sure all this is in the docs somewhere, but I am trying to rush it a bit.. |
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| smdavies99 |
| Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 1:49 am Post subject: |
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It is uncallily strange that the toolkit disk1 tar.gz file contains a file called
installToolkit-silent.sh
Funny that eh? 
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| zpat |
| Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 1:50 am Post subject: |
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And that installs everything, sets the proxy, applies fixpack?
You could just say "disk1 contains a silent install script, you can edit the response file here".
Why be sarcastic? |
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| smdavies99 |
| Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 2:07 am Post subject: |
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I was trying to bring a little lightness into the day. I'm fed up with these grey days.
This will also help you.
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http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/install/v1r4/index.jsp?topic=%2Fcom.ibm.cic.agent.console.doc%2Ftopics%2Ft_console_install_im.html
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The IM InfoCentre has a complete section on installing using console mode and another on updating using console mode.
And yes, a remote X session can be used for installing the Toolkit however most Unix/Linux Sysadmins I know won't let you login as root using X.
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| Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 2:46 am Post subject: |
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This statement worries me
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On AIX®, Linux on x86-64, and Solaris on SPARC, you can install only the broker component.
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Does this mean that I can't install the toolkit on Linux x86-64?
Do these mqsi commands only come with toolkit or with the broker runtime?
Would installing only the broker runtime be a better approach? |
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| Esa |
| Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 2:53 am Post subject: |
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| zpat wrote: |
This statement worries me
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On AIX®, Linux on x86-64, and Solaris on SPARC, you can install only the broker component.
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Does this mean that I can't install the toolkit on Linux x86-64?
Do these mqsi commands only come with toolkit or with the broker runtime?
Would installing only the broker runtime be a better approach? |
Yes, you cannot install the Toolkit on 64-bit.
But the commands come with the broker runtime. I think mqsiapplybaroverride needs to access the workspace. But that does not mean that you would have to install the toolkit, you know... |
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| Esa |
| Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 2:55 am Post subject: |
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| Esa wrote: |
| I think mqsiapplybaroverride needs to access the workspace. But that does not mean that you would have to install the toolkit, you know... |
No, sorry, mqsiapplybaroverride does not have to access the workspace, it was mqsicreatebar that does. |
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| Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 2:56 am Post subject: |
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I have installed the Toolkit on RHEL 6.0 64bit. Ok, I used the Graphical IM but the TK is a 32bit application anyways (as it the IM)
As to the 'supported or not supported' issue, I'm afraid you will have to get a proper answer from IBM.
you may have to install some missing packages that the TK needs. I have a ks file somewhere that I used for a 64bit RHEL 6.0 install. This included all the bits needed to run both the TK and Runtime. for example, the KSH shell is used by the runtime installer to create the workpath files.
The mqsi* utilities are included in the TK only. (Well, they certainly are not in my $MQSI_HOME/bin directory on my Linux box)
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| Esa wrote: |
| Esa wrote: |
| I think mqsiapplybaroverride needs to access the workspace. But that does not mean that you would have to install the toolkit, you know... |
No, sorry, mqsiapplybaroverride does not have to access the workspace, it is mqsicreatebar that does. |
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| Esa |
| Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 3:01 am Post subject: |
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| Sorry, I must have clicked "quote" instead of "edit" |
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| Esa |
| Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 3:07 am Post subject: |
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| smdavies99 wrote: |
I have installed the Toolkit on RHEL 6.0 64bit. Ok, I used the Graphical IM but the TK is a 32bit application anyways (as it the IM)
As to the 'supported or not supported' issue, I'm afraid you will have to get a proper answer from IBM.
you may have to install some missing packages that the TK needs. I have a ks file somewhere that I used for a 64bit RHEL 6.0 install. This included all the bits needed to run both the TK and Runtime. for example, the KSH shell is used by the runtime installer to create the workpath files.
The mqsi* utilities are included in the TK only. (Well, they certainly are not in my $MQSI_HOME/bin directory on my Linux box) |
Nice, if it works. I have always run the Toolkit on a 32-bit CentOS on top of vmware. But the mouse does not work very well with this scenario.
By the way, mqsideploy is a broker runtime command, mqsiapplybaroverride is both runtime and workbench. |
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| zpat |
| Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 3:15 am Post subject: |
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Good point, but a runtime install would need a WMB license.
So - we seem to be "snookered" here. Toolkit does not have mqsideploy and runtime needs a license.
I thought I read somewhere (APAR?) that mqsideploy would ship with toolkit - maybe it's PMR time?
I also don't want to pay for a full WMQ install either, which is a runtime pre-req.
Here's another question. Which components are needed to use the config manager proxy API? |
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| smdavies99 |
| Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 5:18 am Post subject: |
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| zpat wrote: |
Good point, but a runtime install would need a WMB license.
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IIRC, back when we had ConfigMgrs, you could install that on a seperate server (i.e. no broker configured) without needing a license.
I guess that the guys at IBM didn't think about using a deployment server and how it would be licensed.
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| Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 5:21 am Post subject: |
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I don't believe that licensing is incurred for product install. Just for running brokers.
That is, of course, a question for your IBM sales rep. |
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| Esa |
| Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 5:26 am Post subject: |
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| zpat wrote: |
Here's another question. Which components are needed to use the config manager proxy API? |
I think MQ client and ConfigMgrProxy jar should be enough. And java, of course. Then you can write your own deployment program. |
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