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| dprogwmb |
 Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 4:50 pm Post subject: Fixpacks 7.0.1 and 7.0.2 of Broker in different profiles? |
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Hi all
I wonder if any of you know how to use one Fix Pack (for example: 7.0.1) for one profile (for example profile 1); and other fix Pack (for example: 7.0.2) for another profile (for example profile 2) of Websphere message Broker 7?
Is it possible to use the same installation of the broker, and then set for each profile the fix pack it uses?
Or do I need to make another installation of the Message Broker 7, then apply fix pack and the assign it to the corresponding profile ?
Any ideas? Any usefull information regarding this "requirement"?
PD: I'm installing on AIX Operative System.
(The background problem is: that some message flows of one interface use the 7.0.1 Message Broker; and other flows from another interface use the 7.0.2 Message Broker... and I'd like to use the same installation for both... only differentiating by profile) |
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| fjb_saper |
| Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 6:43 pm Post subject: |
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If you want 2 different fix pack levels for the broker, you will need 2 instances of the broker. One at each fix pack level (effective level) and the code needs to be at the higher level. Same profile could be used...
The other possibility is to have 2 installations each at a different directory and fix pack, with 2 different profiles.
Have fun 
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| dprogwmb |
| Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 6:58 pm Post subject: A bit more explanation on first option, please? |
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| fjb_saper wrote: |
If you want 2 different fix pack levels for the broker, you will need 2 instances of the broker. One at each fix pack level (effective level) and the code needs to be at the higher level. Same profile could be used...
The other possibility is to have 2 installations each at a different directory and fix pack, with 2 different profiles.
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Thank you for your answer fjb_saper...
How can I make the first option -one broker per fix pack level- (that's the one I need) ?
Is there any special option in the installation of the fix pack for using the same installation of the Broker and not overwriting the previous (in my case the previous is the 7.0.1)?
What did you mean with:
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| the code needs to be at the higher level |
Thanks again!!! |
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| fjb_saper |
| Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2011 4:48 am Post subject: |
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search the infocenter for effective level
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| dprogwmb |
| Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2011 9:44 am Post subject: I've found something interesting :=) |
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| fjb_saper wrote: |
| search the infocenter for effective level |
Hi,
I've found this link:
http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg21376622
I think that in that link the Message Broker is running under 6.1.0.2 version but can be upgraded to 6.1.0.3 whenever they want, just setting the fix to the broker with the command:
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| mqsichangebroker <broker name> -f 6.1.0.3 |
So in conclusion the effective level is the level that's running actually the Broker, but it can be upgraded to a higher level whenever you need it, using the mqsichangebroker -f command.
I saw that when installing the fix, under Personalization mode... you can choose the path where the fix is installed... so both fixes can coexist in the same machine.
Am I right?
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| mqjeff |
| Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2011 10:01 am Post subject: |
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You don't want to do anything with Broker 6.1.0.2 or 6.1.0.3 either.
They are both extremely old by now.
Yes, you can in fact create a single machine that has every single released version and fixpack of Broker 6.0, 6.1 and 7.0 on it - and throw in one level of Broker v5 if you really wanted.
Yes, the effective level of a Broker does control whether or not that Broker exposes features that are available in the level of the fixpack that its binaries are running under.
But effective level is not the only way to control what level a given Broker is running at. For example, you can not set the effective level of a Broker running under 6.1 to run at version 7. Or even at version 6.0.
So if you take ten minutes of your own time to think about how this works, and what the necessary things to do before starting a broker, and consider the information you have already discovered on your own, I am confident you will answer your own questions. |
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| dprogwmb |
| Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2011 10:20 am Post subject: a bit agressive... |
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| mqjeff wrote: |
You don't want to do anything with Broker 6.1.0.2 or 6.1.0.3 either.
They are both extremely old by now.
Yes, you can in fact create a single machine that has every single released version and fixpack of Broker 6.0, 6.1 and 7.0 on it - and throw in one level of Broker v5 if you really wanted.
Yes, the effective level of a Broker does control whether or not that Broker exposes features that are available in the level of the fixpack that its binaries are running under.
But effective level is not the only way to control what level a given Broker is running at. For example, you can not set the effective level of a Broker running under 6.1 to run at version 7. Or even at version 6.0.
So if you take ten minutes of your own time to think about how this works, and what the necessary things to do before starting a broker, and consider the information you have already discovered on your own, I am confident you will answer your own questions. |
The version 6.1.0.2 and 6.1.0.3 were an example of using the mqsichangebroker that I've found documented..
I want to use version 7.0.0.1 and 7.0.0.2 for 2 different applications... that's my objetive... I only was asking how can I make it... I think it's more "usefull" to share knowledge than to be a "bit" agressive with others... |
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2011 12:16 pm Post subject: Re: a bit agressive... |
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| dprogwmb wrote: |
| I want to use version 7.0.0.1 and 7.0.0.2 for 2 different applications... that's my objetive... |
You could have mentioned that up front. It would also be interesting to know why you have this objective. I can just about see what you'd want v6.1 & v7, but why 2 versions of v7 so close together? If you want to apply maintenance but don't want to "change" the broker an application is using then this method will not work for you. All the fixes will still be applied, it's only new functionality that's controlled by this flag.
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| I only was asking how can I make it... I think it's more "usefull" to share knowledge than to be a "bit" agressive with others... |
It's reasonable for us to ask why you're doing something, if only so we can point out pitfalls or better methods.
There's sharing knowledge, and there's asking for knowledge that's available in the documentation without bothering to look. We get an awful lot of the latter, and it makes all us regulars a bit short tempered. If you don't like the posting style here, raise a PMR or try the listserver. Or just breathe deeply and let it wash over you.
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| mqjeff |
| Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 2:10 am Post subject: |
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Please also remember that this is a text-only medium and that a lot of the context one has during face-to-face or on-the-phone conversations with other humans is lost.
So it is entirely possible that I have appeared to say things in an aggressive stance to you but that I meant as entirely helpful.
Again, yes, you can do what you want. Again, capability level is not sufficient.
And, again, there are key facts about how to do this that are inherent in the process of starting a broker. And this is a situation that is at least somewhat clearly documented. And this is a question that has been discussed before on this forum in other ways.
These are all facts, that you have not appeared to demonstrate you understand. So this is knowledge that I am attempting to share with you - even if it doesn't directly answer your question. |
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