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sunny_30
PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 1:22 pm    Post subject: Local-admin access for MQ-admin on Windows ? Reply with quote

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HI

I would like to know if Local-Administrator access on a 'Windows Server 2003' system is mandatory for MQ-Admin type of support

In an ideal scenario, compared to a Unix environment, root/admin access should not be compulsory-> all the mq-guy needs to be is part of the 'mqm' group
But on Windows, I see there is a problem- A non-admin cannot start/ stop MQ-service if required.. I tested as a non-local_admin + a mqm-member & it doesnt work! Would like to know how it should normally be setup.. Any other workaround for this ?

In our place the WIN-admins would not give local-admin access to the MQ-support team

please suggest
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Thank Windows for placing a number of things into the registry.
Access to the registry will be needed to administer MQ.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 5:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Agree. Registry access is required to modify qm/mqs ini settings for Windows.
But Windows Registry access doesnt necessarily require Local-Admin privilege. In this case, all the mq-admin needs is write access to Registry parent key& subkeys eg: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\IBM\MQSeries
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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sunny_30 wrote:
Agree. Registry access is required to modify qm/mqs ini settings for Windows.
But Windows Registry access doesnt necessarily require Local-Admin privilege. In this case, all the mq-admin needs is write access to Registry parent key& subkeys eg: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\IBM\MQSeries

Not quite, it also needs unlimited access to the MQ file system, at least for the id running the qmgr (service id)?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 12:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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fjb_saper wrote:
it also needs unlimited access to the MQ file system
Thank you for your response
IF by "unlimited" you mean "write" access to all MQ-directories (install, working etc), that should be fine..

BUT Its still not clear to me if you are saying Local-Administrator level access is mandatory (or) not for MQ-admin type of duties on a Windows system ?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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sunny_30 wrote:
fjb_saper wrote:
it also needs unlimited access to the MQ file system
Thank you for your response
IF by "unlimited" you mean "write" access to all MQ-directories (install, working etc), that should be fine..

BUT Its still not clear to me if you are saying Local-Administrator level access is mandatory (or) not for MQ-admin type of duties on a Windows system ?


Well on top of the accesses mentioned above you also need permission to resolve group membership etc for the MQ service Id. May be this is what mandates the membership in the local admins.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 7:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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fjb_saper wrote:
Well on top of the accesses mentioned above you also need permission to resolve group membership etc for the MQ service Id. May be this is what mandates the membership in the local admins.

Does this mean that Windows OS in order to authenticate group membership requires Administrator level access?

I just found this info today:
http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/wmqv7/v7r0/index.jsp?topic=/com.ibm.mq.csqzae.doc/ic12660_.htm
which says-
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On Windows systems
Administration users must be part of both the mqm group and the administrators group on Windows systems if this ID is going to use WebSphere® MQ administration commands.

Is it for the above reason IBM mandates as such for MQ Administration ?
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