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| ivanachukapawn |
 Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 5:14 am Post subject: MO71 MQSC Window Process Def problem |
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When I try to define a process with
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| EXEC IOACND,PARM='ADD COND CND.MQS.SCD1XXXXX.ABC STAT' |
in the APPLICID, I get an error that there are too many parameters for APPLICID. However, if I work around this problem by enclosing the whole field in quotes, it is defined but when configured the application (CICS) gets a JCL error. I was able to define the process with
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| EXEC IOACND,PARM='ADD COND CND.MQS.SCD1XXXXX.ABC STAT' |
in the APPLICID using MQExplorer. I suspect that there is some ASCII/EBCIDIC problem associated with MO71 implementation of both command line and MQSC Window which is producing the problem with MO71. However, I no longer think so after checking the quotes with a HEX editor. Any suggestions as to why I cannot define this process using MO71? |
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| bruce2359 |
| Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 6:15 am Post subject: |
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Can you define the object successfully with CSQUTIL? Can you define the object successfully with the ISPF WMQ panels?
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| ivanachukapawn |
| Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 6:20 am Post subject: |
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| Can you define the object successfully with CSQUTIL? Can you define the object successfully with the ISPF WMQ panels? |
- Unfortunately, I do not know the answer to these questions as the paranoid Security department has not seen fit to give me login access to ZOS/TSO etc. I can't try CSQUTIL or ISPF WMQ. But oddly, I do have client access to the subject QM. I was able to successfully configure the MQ Process via MQExplorer (client connection). |
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| bruce2359 |
| Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 6:41 am Post subject: |
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If you can successfully create the object with WMQ Explorer, but fail with IOAND, I'd be contacting the IOACND vendor for support.
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| ivanachukapawn |
| Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 6:45 am Post subject: |
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| I have contacted the vendor for support. But my question has to do with why I can define the required MQ Process object with MQExplorer but the definition fails when using MO71. |
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| bruce2359 |
| Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 7:08 am Post subject: |
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| I suspect that there is some ASCII/EBCIDIC problem associated with MO71 |
Why do you suspect this?
What CCSID on z/OS? On Windows?
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| mqjeff |
| Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 7:25 am Post subject: |
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I suspect that MO71 is constructing the PCF message incorrectly. Or that it's not constructing a PCF message, and instead writing an MQSC message...
Either way, i'd see if I can examine the messages produced by MO71 vs MQ Explorer somehow - perhaps with an mq client trace.
Thirdly, I strongly suspect that the paranoid security admins don't actually KNOW that you have client access to this qmgr. |
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| ivanachukapawn |
| Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 8:08 am Post subject: |
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| Thirdly, I strongly suspect that the paranoid security admins don't actually KNOW that you have client access to this qmgr. |
- I'm sure they don't know but I'm being quiet about it. I have a lot of config impending on this ZOS QM and I was hoping to get it all done with MQMON MQSC Window reading a file (file(infile) . Because of the inability of MO71 to handle this Process definition, I have to break the config procedure into 2 procedures - 1 for MO71, the other for MQExplorer, no big deal. That's why I wrote this post - to alert the MO71 author to the fact that there is an error in MO71 MQSC Window Process definition.[/quote] |
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| mqjeff |
| Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 8:18 am Post subject: |
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| ivanachukapawn wrote: |
| to alert the MO71 author |
It is not generally been my experience that the MO71 author pays much attention here. I have seen a very few and small set of posts that indicate otherwise, but they are indeed few and far between.
the vienna listserv might be more forthcoming - but as you've said you've already directly contacted (which was the right approach to begin with) - I'm sure you'll get an answer soonish.
In the meantime, the aforementioned client trace might provide you some hints on how to adjust the MO71 input to cause it to produce the correct result.
Or it might not. But it'd be helpful to the MO71 author I'm sure. |
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| fjb_saper |
| Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:38 am Post subject: |
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| ivanachukapawn wrote: |
| I have contacted the vendor for support. But my question has to do with why I can define the required MQ Process object with MQExplorer but the definition fails when using MO71. |
Earlier you were referring to mqsc => MO72 and would indeed point to a quote problem. MO71 and MQExplorer would allow you to alleviate that quote problem to some extent. Now if MO71 gui and MQExplorer give different results, you need to contact the people named for support in the readme of the support pack.
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| zpat |
| Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 12:27 pm Post subject: |
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MO71 is great although there are some minor bugs and I hope the author can release an update this year (the last was July 2009).
I reported a PCF CCSID conversion issue to the MO71 author, and to cut a long story short, it was a problem in the WMQ product and an APAR was opened. Doesn't sound like this problem though. |
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| Michael Dag |
| Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 12:53 pm Post subject: |
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have you tried entering:
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| APPLICID('EXEC IOACND,PARM=''ADD COND CND.MQS.SCD1XXXXX.ABC STAT''') |
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