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vimmy
PostPosted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 6:27 am    Post subject: Queue manager recreated w/0 taking a backup of the objects Reply with quote

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I deleted and recreated the queue manager, w/o taking a backup of the objects. I dont have any backup what so ever. Is there a way to get the objects back? Please respond asap
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 6:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I can only restore the file stuctures from before
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 6:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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MQ version 6 and the system is Windows 2003 server
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 6:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If you have a full backup of the file system, then the queue manager should be restored with the object definitions as they were at the time the backup was taken.

Likewise with messages and transactions in flight.

If you don't actually have a full backup of the file system, then you probably need to start over.
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vimmy
PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 7:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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what do mean by full back up...from the queue manager name folder or from the QMGRS folder??? Pls reply
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vimmy
PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 8:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Is it from the mqm folder....We install mq in E:\APPS\mqm
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 9:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Backups come in flavors. One is a complete filesystem backup - and is often referred to as a full backup.

If you've made a backup of your E: drive, and you can restore it, then you will likely be able to start the older version of your qmgr to recover the objects.

Do you back up your c: drive? Do you back up end-user data? Having no backup methodology is career-limiting. You must immediately identify what you need to back up, and then implement a backup procedure.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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also, you should use MS03 to save your QMGRs definitions before you make changes. Of course, too late now.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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bruce2359 wrote:
Backups come in flavors. One is a complete filesystem backup - and is often referred to as a full backup.


Vimmy,
Backing up the MQ directories while any Queue Managers are running is not recommended, as the MQ files may be in an inconsistent state. If you restore from such a backup, it is very likely that the Queue Managers will not be able to start.

You should use MS03 to backup the MQ objects and security profiles, and also backup (or record) the settings that were used to create the Queue Managers, and other customizations (exits, SSL, tuning parms etc).
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Backing up the MQ directories while any Queue Managers are running is not recommended

You should implement a backup strategy that employs multiple backup methods - one of which should be a full filesystem backup. Another should be an application-level backup (of messages residing in queues). Another should be with MS03 to backup object definitions.

The total number of backups that you must have must have available to you is exactly equal to one more than you need - whatever number that is.

IBMs Redbook "MQSeries Backup and Recovery" might be a place to start. http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg245222.html
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