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| mqjeff wrote: |
| One puts whisky in one's tea, not Scotch. |
Whisky. Scotch. Same thing.
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| Vitor |
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| fatherjack wrote: |
| mqjeff wrote: |
| One puts whisky in one's tea, not Scotch. |
Whisky. Scotch. Same thing. |
No it isn't. Absolutely not.
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| fatherjack |
| Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 6:06 am Post subject: |
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| Vitor wrote: |
| No it isn't. Absolutely not. |
Care to elaborate?
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| mqmatt |
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| fatherjack wrote: |
| Whisky. Scotch. Same thing. |
Didn't Father Jack once drink Toilet Duck?
That explains a lot. |
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| fatherjack |
| Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 6:48 am Post subject: |
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| mqmatt wrote: |
| fatherjack wrote: |
| Whisky. Scotch. Same thing. |
Didn't Father Jack once drink Toilet Duck?
That explains a lot. |
Reminded me of a 25 year old cask strength Laphroaig.
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| Vitor |
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| Vitor wrote: |
| No it isn't. Absolutely not. |
Care to elaborate? |
Whisky is a distilled spirit made from malted grain by dedicated people in Scotland using copper stills, wooden barrels and age-old skills.
Scotch is a generic term for an alchoholic beverage which may comprise 1-n distilled products that come from giant factories located anywhere (or the tailings from whisky distilleries) mixed together and put in a bottle.
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| mqjeff |
| Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 7:00 am Post subject: |
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| Vitor wrote: |
Whisky is a distilled spirit made from malted grain by dedicated people in Scotland using copper stills, wooden barrels and age-old skills.
Scotch is a generic term for an alchoholic beverage which may comprise 1-n distilled products that come from giant factories located anywhere (or the tailings from whisky distilleries) mixed together and put in a bottle. |
I meant exactly that, except swapping the first word in each paragraph.
Whisky is anything distilled mostly from grain and less than 51% corn (then it's bourbon).
Don't put the good stuff in your tea, please enjoy it properly. |
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| fatherjack |
| Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 7:02 am Post subject: |
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| Vitor wrote: |
| fatherjack wrote: |
| Vitor wrote: |
| No it isn't. Absolutely not. |
Care to elaborate? |
Whisky is a distilled spirit made from malted grain by dedicated people in Scotland using copper stills, wooden barrels and age-old skills.
Scotch is a generic term for an alchoholic beverage which may comprise 1-n distilled products that come from giant factories located anywhere (or the tailings from whisky distilleries) mixed together and put in a bottle. |
Nope. Sorry. Incorrect. You might be confusing 'Single Malt Whisky' and 'Blended Whisky' here. Both of which can be 'Scotch'. 'Scotch' whisky is merely defined by the fact it is made in Scotland. So whiskies e.g. those distilled in Japan cannot be called Scotch. 'Single Malt' whisky is defined by the fact it comes from a single distillery. And so a 'Single Malt Scotch' whisky is whisky that comes from a single Scottish distillery.
The point I was getting at was that I know that the spelling ‘Whisky’ is used for whiskies distilled in Scotland, Wales, Canada, and Japan but what do the Welsh, Canadians (have you tasted Canadian Club?) and Japanese know about distilling whisky. ‘Whiskey’ is only used for the spirits distilled in Ireland and America. I am also aware of the 1968 directive of the United States Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms which specified Whisky as the official U.S. spelling. But what do Americans know about spelling.
Just to clarify my point .…..
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A Scotsman who spells
Whisky with a n ‘e’,
should be hand cuffed
and thrown head first in the Dee.
In the USA and Ireland,
it’s spelt with an ‘e’
but in Scotland
it’s real ‘Whisky’.
So if you see Whisky
and it has an ‘e’,
only take it,
if you get it for free!
For the name is not the same
and it never will be,
a dram is only a real dram,
from a bottle of ‘Scotch Whisky’.
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| exerk |
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| mqjeff wrote: |
| ...One puts whisky in one's tea... |
Heresy! It should be dark rum, in which case it no longer is tea but becomes 'gunfire'...*
* however, if rum is not available brandy is an acceptable substitute
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| Vitor |
| Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 7:20 am Post subject: |
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| mqjeff wrote: |
| I meant exactly that, except swapping the first word in each paragraph. |
It's probably another trans-Atlantic linguistic variation. Or a trans-UK regional variation.
I think we can agree on the variation & difference between "single malt" & "blended".
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| Vitor |
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| fatherjack wrote: |
| 'Scotch' whisky is merely defined by the fact it is made in Scotland. |
They sell "Scotch" in the duty free at Singapore airport. It's made about 10 miles away.
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| Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 7:34 am Post subject: |
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| Vitor wrote: |
| fatherjack wrote: |
| 'Scotch' whisky is merely defined by the fact it is made in Scotland. |
They sell "Scotch" in the duty free at Singapore airport. It's made about 10 miles away. |
I'm sure they do. Same as all the labelled Calvin Kleins and Dolce & contact admin and Jimmy Choos etc etc you can get in the far east.
Just cos it's labelled 'Scotch' don't make it Scotch.
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| Vitor wrote: |
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| 'Scotch' whisky is merely defined by the fact it is made in Scotland. |
They sell "Scotch" in the duty free at Singapore airport. It's made about 10 miles away. |
I'm sure they do. Same as all the labelled Calvin Kleins and Dolce & contact admin and Jimmy Choos etc etc you can get in the far east.
Just cos it's labelled 'Scotch' don't make it Scotch. |
My point was not that this was fake Glenturret but authentic Far-Eastern product named as "Scotch" not "Whisky" (or "Whiskey").
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| Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 8:03 am Post subject: |
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| My point was not that this was fake Glenturret but authentic Far-Eastern product named as "Scotch" not "Whisky" (or "Whiskey"). |
And my point was that it may well have been labelled 'Scotch'. But this is as illegal as calling it Glenturret. It's illegal to call a whisky 'Scotch' if it was not distilled in Scotland. It can, however, legitimately be called 'Whisky'.
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Like it's illegal to call a sparkling wine Champagne if it was made and bottled anywhere else but in the Champagne region in France... Yet in the US you can get Californian Champagne...???
In France there is a specific name allotted to wines made with the Champagne method, outside of the Champagne region. In Alsace it is called Cremant d'Alsace... The generic term is mousseux... (or for you bubbly) but this covers a wider variety of wines like the Blanquette de Limoux... and any type of carbonated wine.
Have fun and to your health  :cocktail:
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