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itsme_001
PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 11:43 pm    Post subject: services not getting started Reply with quote

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hi,

I have installed MQ V7 on windows 2008 server using admin account.
After configuring the qmgrs, the client wants to use another user account for the applications to run. I have configured the user account to be a part of <mqm>; but still I'm facing the issue wherein i'm not able to start any of the qmgrs using any other user account other than the admin account.

Every time i try to start the qmgr using any of the other user accounts; it throws the error stating that I have an authentication error.

Kindly need help.
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fjb_saper
PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 12:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Have you tried starting the qmgr with the -i or -s flag? (from memory, might be -ss and -si, check the manual)
WMQ V7 behaves a little bit differently than V6
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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And you do realise that the application accounts now have total control over your queue managers
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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fjb_saper wrote:
Have you tried starting the qmgr with the -i or -s flag? (from memory, might be -ss and -si, check the manual)
WMQ V7 behaves a little bit differently than V6



still not able to run the queue manager. I'm able to start the queue manager; but not able to use the runmqsc command on the qmgr.

C:\Users\appuser>runmqsc MQ_MGR
5724-H72 (C) Copyright IBM Corp. 1994, 2009. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED.
Starting MQSC for queue manager MQ_MGR.


AMQ8135: Not authorized.

No MQSC commands read.
No commands have a syntax error.
All valid MQSC commands were processed.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 9:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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So which flag did you use? Did you use the si flag?
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itsme_001
PostPosted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 2:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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used the flag -si; which is able to start the qmgr. but once I log off the account and login thru another account I need to start the qmgr again.

need help.........
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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itsme_001 wrote:
used the flag -si; which is able to start the qmgr. but once I log off the account and login thru another account I need to start the qmgr again.

need help.........

So use the -ss flag instead...
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HubertKleinmanns
PostPosted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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itsme_001 wrote:
used the flag -si; which is able to start the qmgr. but once I log off the account and login thru another account I need to start the qmgr again.

need help.........


Maybe you should have a look to the manual first:

"-si" means "Interactive queue manager startup" - so the QMgr processes are childs of your login process. If you logoff, you will close all your child processes too.

"-ss" means "Service queue manager startup" - in this case the QMgr runs as a service under a service account.

To access the QMgr with runmqsc you need the permissions - are you in group "mqm" or "Administrators"?
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 1:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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HubertKleinmanns wrote:
itsme_001 wrote:
used the flag -si; which is able to start the qmgr. but once I log off the account and login thru another account I need to start the qmgr again.

need help.........


Maybe you should have a look to the manual first:

"-si" means "Interactive queue manager startup" - so the QMgr processes are childs of your login process. If you logoff, you will close all your child processes too.

"-ss" means "Service queue manager startup" - in this case the QMgr runs as a service under a service account.

To access the QMgr with runmqsc you need the permissions - are you in group "mqm" or "Administrators"?


I'm not positive but I believe on V7 you also need the qmgr to have been started using one of the afore mentioned flags... Bad things happen if you start it from the command line and do not mention any flags and your OS is Windows...
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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started the qmgr using -ss flag; the gud news is that the qmgr in not ending after logout. its in the running mode only.

But the bad news is that i'm not able to login to the qmgr:

C:\Documents and Settings\appusr>runmqsc TEST
5724-H72 (C) Copyright IBM Corp. 1994, 2009. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED.
Starting MQSC for queue manager TEST.


AMQ8135: Not authorized.

No MQSC commands read.
No commands have a syntax error.
All valid MQSC commands were processed.
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HubertKleinmanns
PostPosted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 11:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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fjb_saper wrote:

Bad things happen if you start it from the command line and do not mention any flags and your OS is Windows...


I would say: Bad things happen if your OS is Windows
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 11:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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itsme_001 wrote:
started the qmgr using -ss flag; the gud news is that the qmgr in not ending after logout. its in the running mode only.

But the bad news is that i'm not able to login to the qmgr:

C:\Documents and Settings\appusr>runmqsc TEST
5724-H72 (C) Copyright IBM Corp. 1994, 2009. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED.
Starting MQSC for queue manager TEST.


AMQ8135: Not authorized.

No MQSC commands read.
No commands have a syntax error.
All valid MQSC commands were processed.


As the message tells you, you are not authorized. Check your group membership. If you are working with a domain account, check if the system user is able to inquire the group membership of domain users.
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itsme_001
PostPosted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 1:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The user from where I got the above error for authorization is already a part of mqm group.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 1:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Are you using a domain user?
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itsme_001
PostPosted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 1:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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HubertKleinmanns wrote:
Are you using a domain user?


Yes. using the domain user only I'm getting the above error:

C:\Documents and Settings\appusr>runmqsc TEST
5724-H72 (C) Copyright IBM Corp. 1994, 2009. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED.
Starting MQSC for queue manager TEST.


AMQ8135: Not authorized.

No MQSC commands read.
No commands have a syntax error.
All valid MQSC commands were processed.

this is inspite of the qmgr status showing as running.
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