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tonyindl
PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 3:40 pm    Post subject: can I install both MQ 6 and 7 under the same disk? Reply with quote

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hi all,
Is there anyone know if I can install MQ 6.0 and 7.0 under the same disk.
I am using MQ 6.0 , now planning to install MQ 7.0 .I want to keep both MQ 6 and 7 working well,is that possible?
Operation System is Windows xp sp3.
Any advice will be really appreciated.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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z/OS is the only o/s platform that allows multiple WMQ version/release/modification-levels - in a single instance of the operating system.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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bruce2359 wrote:
z/OS is the only o/s platform that allows multiple WMQ version/release/modification-levels - in a single instance of the operating system.

Hi bruce2359,thanks very much for you reply.
So I have to upgrade MQ 6.0 to 7.0.
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tonyindl wrote:
bruce2359 wrote:
z/OS is the only o/s platform that allows multiple WMQ version/release/modification-levels - in a single instance of the operating system.

Hi bruce2359,thanks very much for you reply.
So I have to upgrade MQ 6.0 to 7.0.

Better go for MQv7.0.1.3 (https://www-304.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg24026932)
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 1:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You can have V6 and V7 on the same physical machine. However they need to be installed into 2 different virtual machines.
If my meaning is not crystal clear to you, you should stay with the simple answer: NO

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Same physical box, but different LPARs.
Same physical box, but different o/s's.
Same physical box, but different virtual machines (like vmware).

With the exception of z/OS (all hail!), only one instance of mq can be installed in a single o/s image.

If z/OS, then yes; if not z/OS, then no.
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as bruce said that you can have same physical disk and can do the partition on it and install diff O.S. on them and then put diff. versions of MQ on them. (which you want)
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I am using MQ 6.0 , now planning to install MQ 7.0 .I want to keep both MQ 6 and 7 working well,is that possible?

MQ versions would be fine.
BUT here is the catch, you won't be able to run both the O.S. at a time (that are on diff. partitions and during boot it asks which O.S. you want to run) and hence at a time you would be able to work on one of those mq versions.
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shashivarungupta wrote:
as bruce said that you can have same physical disk and can do the partition on it and install diff O.S. on them and then put diff. versions of MQ on them. (which you want)
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I am using MQ 6.0 , now planning to install MQ 7.0 .I want to keep both MQ 6 and 7 working well,is that possible?

MQ versions would be fine.
BUT here is the catch, you won't be able to run both the O.S. at a time (that are on diff. partitions and during boot it asks which O.S. you want to run) and hence at a time you would be able to work on one of those mq versions.


You're thinking partitions and boot. I am thinking VMWare... so you can have multiple "appliances" running on the same machine at the same time.
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fjb_saper wrote:
shashivarungupta wrote:
as bruce said that you can have same physical disk and can do the partition on it and install diff O.S. on them and then put diff. versions of MQ on them. (which you want)
Quote:
I am using MQ 6.0 , now planning to install MQ 7.0 .I want to keep both MQ 6 and 7 working well,is that possible?

MQ versions would be fine.
BUT here is the catch, you won't be able to run both the O.S. at a time (that are on diff. partitions and during boot it asks which O.S. you want to run) and hence at a time you would be able to work on one of those mq versions.


You're thinking partitions and boot. I am thinking VMWare... so you can have multiple "appliances" running on the same machine at the same time.


Thats True. I have used VMWare earlier. Its good too.

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You're thinking partitions and boot. I am thinking VMWare... so you can have multiple "appliances" running on the same machine at the same time.


This seems to be needlessly confusing, and/or less precise.

The real issue remains that z/OS is the only o/s that allows for multiple concurrent WMQ versions to be installed.

If you boot a VMWare image of an o/s, you have booted a guest o/s. A guest o/s instance is not the same o/s instance as the host o/s. The guest and host are two entirely different instances. If you boot an o/s instance in another LPAR, it too is not the same o/s instance [edit] as any other o/s in any other LPAR in the same physical machine.

While the OP mentioned "on the same disk," it also mentioned xp sp3. Multiple versions of WMQ cannot be installed concurrently on a single instance of xp sp3.
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If you boot a VMWare image of an o/s, you have booted a guest o/s. A guest o/s instance is not the same o/s instance as the host o/s. The guest and host are two entirely different instances. If you boot an o/s instance in another LPAR, it too is not the same o/s instance.


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