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DarXide
PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 8:23 am    Post subject: mq queue to printer queue and vice versa Reply with quote

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Hello mq experts

I hope it’s the right place for my question

We searching for shelf product that will help us to move a printing job from the printer queue to mqseries queue and than from the mqseries queue back to the printer queue
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zpat
PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 8:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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what sort of print queue do you mean? Platform etc?

Depending on how the print data is stored and accessed it may be possible to avoid coding.

Do you have WMB available?
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DarXide
PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 9:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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no i dont have wmb
its win on both sides
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Vitor
PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 9:22 am    Post subject: Re: mq queue to printer queue and vice versa Reply with quote

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DarXide wrote:
We searching for shelf product that will help us to move a printing job from the printer queue to mqseries queue and than from the mqseries queue back to the printer queue


So you're looking for a product that can take a queued print job (in the proprietory format for the make & model of printer you're using), write to to a WMQ queue and, at a later point replay that onto the print queue?

Or does it need to take a WMQ message in an undisclosed format and format it as a print task for the undisclosed make & model of printer on the return leg?

Just trying to get the requirement straight.
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mqjeff
PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 10:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Well, I suppose on Unix at least you could misuse pipes to redirect the printer device to something that forked the output to the real printer and also to a program that wrote an MQ message.

But you'd have to be sure that none of your printer jobs were ever bigger than 100MB... or to implement segmentation...
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 10:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Are you trying to use WMQ queues to store print output?
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zpat
PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You need to give more background as to why you think this design is the right one.

What business function does it provide for you?

What's wrong with printing it to a remote printer and allowing windows to spool it in the usual way?

You could print to a PDF file (using a suitable driver), send the file over MQ and then recover and print it somewhere else.

Nothing off the shelf is going to do this.
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DarXide
PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 11:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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im looking for a product that can take a queued print job , write to to a WMQ queue and send it to anthor machine and put it back to a printer queue
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Vitor
PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 11:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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DarXide wrote:
im looking for a product that can take a queued print job , write to to a WMQ queue and send it to anthor machine and put it back to a printer queue


Well it's a novel requirement you've got to give it that!

I've not heard of anything off the shelf. Aside from the Windows facilities around remote printing.
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zpat
PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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DarXide wrote:
im looking for a product that can take a queued print job , write to to a WMQ queue and send it to anthor machine and put it back to a printer queue


That is a possible solution, but what is the requirement?

Why use MQ? What is it that MQ is doing for you in this case that something more conventional would not?

I've seen this done with mainframe print jobs, sent from z/OS to third-party printing outsourcer over MQ.

Maybe they can help - T-systems was their name.
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DarXide
PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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i want loadbalance between 2 optio servers
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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DarXide wrote:
i want loadbalance between 2 optio servers

Have you put some thought about using something like BigIP to do that (hardware load balancer)?
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DarXide
PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 11:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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yes we thought about it
we prefer MQ
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